theforce said:
Luke Skywalker was not given the movie he deserved.
1. The premise that the man who had chosen NOT to strike down the most evil Sith the world had ever known ever considered killing his sister’s only child was outrageous.
2. “Star Wars” is a Skywalker story. This movie is not about a Skywalker.
3. This movie is trying to get a political message across in a very heavy-handed way. That’s what “Star Trek” does, not “Star Wars."
But let me pose this question then, maybe the failure lies with JJ in TFA. Rather than pander to nostalgia JJ should have had the Luke/ Kylo story in TFA and his decline as an effective Jedi teacher where he fails Kylo rather than a cheap flashback in which Rian further carries on the cheapness.
That way we see the decline and the inner struggle Luke has and to which extreme end his is willing to forego.
I think JJ and Rian did a PT-esque mistake by just telling us sonto speak, like Luca didnbu just telling us Obi-wan and Anakin being the best of friends rather than showing that development.
1. You might be misremembering. Luke after a few temptations gave in and attempted to kill the Emperor. It was Vader that stopped him. Luke also gave in to Vader’s threat easily and Vader got nearly annihilated by Luke.
Luke always had the problem of his emotions clouding his judgement, giving into the dark side in several occasions. In Empire, already impatient and reckless, he ignored Obi-Wan and Yoda’s advice and rushed off to save his friends. Again, in RotJ, he attempted to kill the Emperor and Vader each in two different displays of rage.
It makes sense that he would fall into a “trap” of the Dark Side, and for a few seconds only, consider getting rid of the darkness by killing Ben. Luke was always vulnerable to that. Is this consideration justifiable? Of course not. But Luke realizes this, the guilt that immediately followed is proof of that; and his overwhelming guilt and shame is the sole reason for his self imposed exile.
This was a bold move by Rian Johnson which I commend. Even Mark Hamill can’t seem to wrap his head around it. But in my humble opinion, this fits his character well, especially with his development and final journey, portrayed wonderfully in this film.
2. In a galaxy as vast and with such history as this, with the potential of so much different and great stories; to suggest that the saga belongs solely to the Skywalkers is absurd. I know Star Wars was intended as a family soap opera, but the franchise evolved from that while still keeping it’s main spirit. Just look at so many other wonderful stories from the franchise, such as KotOR I & especially II. Plus Kylo Ren is a Skywalker, soo...
3. I’ll give you that. The social commentary I agree wasn’t executed well at all.
4. So you’re saying Episode VII should have been about Ben Solo’s fall to the Dark Side? But then the aura of mystery in The Force Awakens (acting as the second of the trilogy, or a reworked extension of TFA anyway) would be gone. Rey is the main character in the trilogy, and while Kylo Ren is important, he’s not as important as dedicating an entire movie about him. In my opinion the flashbacks were sufficient.
I would however be interested to see this story in the future, like maybe in an Anthology movie between Episodes VI and VII, starring Sebastian Stan as Luke Skywalker. Or if it’s done sooner than later, yeah go Mark Hamill young-ified again (if it looks good). Unless of course the rumors of Luke being killed off at the end of the movie because Mark Hamill did negative press on the movie, is true; however I doubt it.
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