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Man of Steel: Remastered - An Agent 9 FanEdit

My review (posted on the listing):

When I first viewed "Man of Steel" in the theater, I was struck by the dour tone that the whole film had. The color timing was very dull (I assumed it was actually the theater not using the correct projector bulbs, but had the same feeling on Blu-ray). Zimmer's score never quite had the levity of previous Superman scores. I really wondered what the film would be like with Williams's cues and a new look.

Wonder no more with Agent9's "Man of Steel: Remastered." While the addition of John Williams's music is front in center here, it's by no means the biggest revelations at play. The new color timing removes the ugly dark green hues from the film and showcase how amazing the new Superman suit looks. It really pops here and is hard to look away whenever it is on screen.

This is also by no means just a recolor and a new score. Agent9 has made some great cuts and restructuring of the entire film. A pared down opening gets the ball rolling much faster than the theatrical version and feels more in line with "Superman: The Movie." Sure, there's a few bits between Zod and Jor-El that leave questions for the viewer, but all those questions get answered (as they do for Clark in the film) just 20 minutes later. The edits that Agent9 makes to the first act of the film are truly revelatory, removing the confusing structure of the narrative with various flashbacks and SFX showpieces. After the destruction of Krypton, there is a title sequence that fits in with the Reeve films. I would have preferred less oil in water constellations (as in the Reeve films) and a little more NASA material, but that is a minor nitpick really.

Then we get straight into the story through Lois Lane's perspective. Clark barely shows up. It's an interesting choice that works out really well and I would love to see it with someone who never saw the original version. The forced action sequences like the oil rig rescue (cool but mostly for trailer moments), Lois Lane getting whipped by the Kryptonian computer (what?), Young Clark's X-ray vision (the actor isn't that good) are gone. Lois really has little to go on when she does her investigation and hearing about the rescues through her perspective is far more creative than merely showing them. It isn't until much later in the film that we can see what Clark can do, which provides the proper rising suspense for the viewer.

The destruction is toned down. It's sure there and there's little that will change that, but it never reaches the uncomfortable levels of the theatrical version. Now Superman takes down the world engine a little quicker and the suspense in the scene is solely on whether or not he can do it and not on whether or not Perry White will save a character in a soundstage that the audience doesn't care for. It's crazy how well this finale works.

Now, I have heaps of praise for this cut, but there are a couple of bits that keep it from being perfect. The bus flashback needs a little more editing. Pete Ross still says his very odd curses ("Dick splash?" Really?!) and there's a little too much music laid over the rescue of the bus. This should be a moment of Clark learning what he can do and should be toned down. It's more of a feeling of the audience of proper rises and falls with emotion. There's a few too many moments that utilize the march which makes the proper Superman moments not as strong. Just a suggestion.

Also, there are two moments that need the music swapped. The music swell from Superman Returns when Lois comforts Clark after what he's done to Zod is misplaced. It's very romantic and triumphant which is at odds with what the characters are feeling in the moment. If this music swell was put in the spot when Superman and Lois kiss for the first time (after teleporting Zod's ship and seemingly saving the day) that would work. The music for this scene should be for the train station moment. I think that would work thematically far better.

Oh! Lest I forget! Agent9's new conclusion works out far better than the theatrical version. We have a nice tease of Clark working for The Daily Planet (we no longer see the newsroom in perfect shape again, which left many questions about when the scene took place following the climax) and Clark's uneasy scene with the general is the closing. It no longer feels like Clark just destroyed half of Metropolis and right after is telling the military to get off his back. It felt weird in the theatrical version and is a nice denouement here. Plus, giving the film a moment to breathe for a second made the "I think he's hot line" work. And, yes, Agent9 found a way to make the film close triumphantly like the Reeve films. Well done.

I really hope that Agent9 makes another few tweaks to his already amazing cut. Like his cuts of "Prometheus" and "Terminator Salvation" this will probably be my go-to edit for watching the film. Give it a look and be surprised at how much fun "Man of Steel" can actually be with a bit of editing.


 
Workshed said:
My review (posted on the listing):




Thanks for the Review Workshed, I appreciate it.... and I'm glad you enjoyed the cut.
 
Agent9 said:
Thanks for the Review Workshed, I appreciate it.... and I'm glad you enjoyed the cut.

I sure did. Did you see my suggestions? I am curious on your thoughts with those sequences.
 
Workshed said:
I sure did. Did you see my suggestions? I am curious on your thoughts with those sequences.

As to your review:

THE BUS SCENE: I also hate the "Dick Splash" line, but I did try a bit of editing to get rid of it and change a few things about the scene and flow - But overall I just didn't like the way it cut and the way the shots worked. Obviously if I had alternative shots to work with - then I probably could of made something work - unfortunately that's not the case. So I'd rather sacrifice having a shit line in the film, then a shit edit/cut.

And from earlier about the Russell Crowe edit in the scout ship, I needed a shot, to over lay the voice over to escort us to the next sequence, It was the best one I could find, I know it doesn't match to well at that point color wise (even though I did try), but I had to make that cut, because I was getting rid of the chamber sequence, which that actually leads into. So this was one spot I had to sacrafice an edit point to make it work - which again was why I didn't want another moment later at the "Bus Scene" where there was a rough edit point.

For the most part I try to make sure "Technically" everything is very tight and the edit's are clean, work and help progress the story along. Even if I have to keep a tiny bit of shit (Whether it be Dialog, a shot etc...) in there to make the overall progression work, and technically good, instead of making a bunch of technical errors just to get rid of stuff.

THE MUSIC: I can see some of your idea's on the music, and I think when it come's down to it, it's mostly opinion based on what could make a scene stronger. I'm actually very happy with how I scored the film, I went through the film for roughly 3 months just scoring it, after I had my initial rough cut. Then another 2 months refining everything (Edit and Music), before even starting color grade or sound mixing. I probably placed every track from my 8 Superman Soundtracks CD's in multiple places to see how everything felt and sounded. Personally I liked the emotions derived from where the Music was placed in the final version. I know that people are going to feel like there could of a been a better spot, but like I said - it's an opinion and that was mine, I'm happy with the choices. The Superman Swell was used roughly as much as it was used in the originals and I was trying to create that same feeling you had when you watched the Reeve's movies as a kid. I think for the most part, I accomplished what I set out to do.


-A9
 
Thanks for the reply! I edit for a living and I don't want you to feel like I'm coming down on you unfairly. It was just the arguably few moments that I noticed. For the music, I am a big fan of almost everything. I just felt that the swell at the end with Lois was maybe a little too loud. That moment feels like it needs just a little bit of quiet due to the gravity of the situation. I respect your choices, I just wanted to bring up my own observations.

I've never been a fan of the dialogue in the bus scene. It smacks of Goyer not knowing how to write and just finalizing his first draft. That's my main reason for wishing it cut out completely.

It's too bad that there's no other cutaway in the scout ship. An exterior or something. Oh, well.

Again, I really love what you've done here and I am curious if you are thinking about doing a Batman V Superman cut in a few years using Williams and Elfman cues? ;)
 
Workshed said:
Thanks for the reply! I edit for a living and I don't want you to feel like I'm coming down on you unfairly. It was just the arguably few moments that I noticed. For the music, I am a big fan of almost everything. I just felt that the swell at the end with Lois was maybe a little too loud. That moment feels like it needs just a little bit of quiet due to the gravity of the situation. I respect your choices, I just wanted to bring up my own observations.

I've never been a fan of the dialogue in the bus scene. It smacks of Goyer not knowing how to write and just finalizing his first draft. That's my main reason for wishing it cut out completely.

It's too bad that there's no other cutaway in the scout ship. An exterior or something. Oh, well.

Again, I really love what you've done here and I am curious if you are thinking about doing a Batman V Superman cut in a few years using Williams and Elfman cues? ;)

Its all good man, no hard feelings at all.. Ya a cut away would of worked great actually. But even the one at the end, has Zod in the shot.

And yes it is on the back of my mind - But need to see the film first and see how it flows etc etc....

-A9
 
One thing I'm curious about: why didn't you cut the Superman/Lois kiss? Most people, myself included, felt that there isn't enough romantic development in the movie to justify it, plus it seems inappropriate for them to kiss right in the midst of all that destruction.
 
hbenthow said:
One thing I'm curious about: why didn't you cut the Superman/Lois kiss? Most people, myself included, felt that there isn't enough romantic development in the movie to justify it, plus it seems inappropriate for them to kiss right in the midst of all that destruction.

I did not cut the kiss, because structurally it provides a good spot for the movie to take a breather before we go right back into action. It calms the moment down, allowing us a chance to catch a breath before we pick right back up again and get into another action sequence. If we don't have this scene, there is nothing there to further the moment, except a landing, and a short conversation and bang back into it. I think the movie / audience needed that break - and there's nothing else to take it's place to give you that, before we start all over again. To be honest even if the story doesn't justify it with enough romantic build up - movies these days move so fast there's not a lot of build up for a bunch of scenarios, especially love in a lot of the newer films, but regardless of that, ever story kinda needs to have that "B love Story included" even if it doesn't have the build it needed, and with that there still needs to be a rest in between two big action sequences.

-A9
 
I agree with Agent9. There is enough between Clark and Lois that has a genuine feeling of attraction between the two that the kiss doesn't feel forced to me. Also, emotions are running high at that moment and they think that the job is done. Clark (along with the military and Lois) just literally saved the world.

Plus, from a film point. It would be like removing the embrace from The Terminator and going from big tanker explosion straight to the arrival of the metal skeleton from the wreckage. There has to be a moment in between the two emotional climaxes to give the film a chance to breathe, otherwise the following sequence becomes very tiring because the audience will become bored due to the bombardment of the action.
 
Looking forward to checking this out. Well done for finishing it!
 
I left you a more detailed review on the DB, but I just wanted to tell you that I loved the edit and really enjoyed watching it. I highly recommend it to anybody curious about checking it out!
 
spence said:
I left you a more detailed review on the DB, but I just wanted to tell you that I loved the edit and really enjoyed watching it. I highly recommend it to anybody curious about checking it out!

Thank you so much Spence, I appreciate the review and praise, I'm really glad you enjoyed it. I left a comment on the Review site as well.

-A9
 
Review posted on IFDB.

I hope my views/opinions aren't considered too harsh. Ultimately I loved this fan edit and highly recommend it. I look forward to watching it again!

Great job Agent 9!!!!!!
 
I can't post to IFDb yet, hoping to get that resolved, but I can post my current thoughts right now (spoilers).

First, it's amazing how much of a difference a soundtrack makes, since a lot of things that didn't work for me in the theatrical cut (John Kent's "maybe" line, the destruction Clark causes) doesn't seem as bad. Johnathan comes off as genuinely confused and worried for his son, and Clark comes off less as "he doesn't care about the destruction he's causing" and more "the more force he applies to the Kryptonian suits, the better chance they have at breaking them and defeating them." And in the scenes with Lois, the "can you read my mind" theme makes it seem like he has a vague idea of what he's doing, or at least hoping for the best, as well as giving Cavil and Adams chemistry. Even the kiss worked this time, since the improved score and color gave the impression that the battle is over and they're just happy to be alive.

That said, I do have issues. There's no buildup to Clark becoming Superman, it would make much more sense if he donned the suit after Zod's broadcast and Lois is kidnapped by the government before he puts the suit on. It's just weird to see him embrace the suit, only to not do anything with it, as opposed to the 78 version, where after he puts on the suit, he's still helping people all over the world.

Also, unless you can somehow imply that Clark holds all life is sacred or does not want to kill, you can't have him kill Zod (although, at least that fight no longer feels like a second climax). It feels like you should have placed the scene where Johnathan asks Clark if the bullies hurt him (which felt awkward where it's placed in the context in this edit), and place it between killing Zod and having Clark screaming. And while some people have problems with it, you do need the romantic, hopeful Superman theme where Lois cradles to not have the scene be a total downer. Though for me, I'd make the climax him struggling against the World Engine, flashbacking to being helpless in school, his mother's words telling hm to make the world small, focusing on the engine and destroying it, then destroying Zod's ship and sending the Kryptonians back to the Phantom Zone. If the rumors I heard for the sequel are ture and
Zod is going to haunt Clark like a ghost, then I would make the guilt in an edit for that film be Clark's guilt about destroying the chance to be the bridge between Earth and Krypton, though, we'll have to wait for the sequel to come out to see if that would work
.

In the end, like others have said, good stuff, but I hope you revisit this edit in the future.
 
One thing I can't stress enough with this edit is how much better the battle scenes were with Williams's score. It felt like I was watching a Superman film. Mission accomplished!

With the kiss I didn't mind it now that the cheesy dialogue was removed.
 
Nic said:
I can't post to IFDb yet, hoping to get that resolved, but I can post my current thoughts right now (spoilers).

First, it's amazing how much of a difference a soundtrack makes, since a lot of things that didn't work for me in the theatrical cut (John Kent's "maybe" line, the destruction Clark causes) doesn't seem as bad. Johnathan comes off as genuinely confused and worried for his son, and Clark comes off less as "he doesn't care about the destruction he's causing" and more "the more force he applies to the Kryptonian suits, the better chance they have at breaking them and defeating them." And in the scenes with Lois, the "can you read my mind" theme makes it seem like he has a vague idea of what he's doing, or at least hoping for the best, as well as giving Cavil and Adams chemistry. Even the kiss worked this time, since the improved score and color gave the impression that the battle is over and they're just happy to be alive.

That said, I do have issues. There's no buildup to Clark becoming Superman, it would make much more sense if he donned the suit after Zod's broadcast and Lois is kidnapped by the government before he puts the suit on. It's just weird to see him embrace the suit, only to not do anything with it, as opposed to the 78 version, where after he puts on the suit, he's still helping people all over the world.

Also, unless you can somehow imply that Clark holds all life is sacred or does not want to kill, you can't have him kill Zod (although, at least that fight no longer feels like a second climax). It feels like you should have placed the scene where Johnathan asks Clark if the bullies hurt him (which felt awkward where it's placed in the context in this edit), and place it between killing Zod and having Clark screaming. And while some people have problems with it, you do need the romantic, hopeful Superman theme where Lois cradles to not have the scene be a total downer. Though for me, I'd make the climax him struggling against the World Engine, flashbacking to being helpless in school, his mother's words telling hm to make the world small, focusing on the engine and destroying it, then destroying Zod's ship and sending the Kryptonians back to the Phantom Zone. If the rumors I heard for the sequel are ture and
Zod is going to haunt Clark like a ghost, then I would make the guilt in an edit for that film be Clark's guilt about destroying the chance to be the bridge between Earth and Krypton, though, we'll have to wait for the sequel to come out to see if that would work
.

In the end, like others have said, good stuff, but I hope you revisit this edit in the future.

With respect, that doesn't sound so much like a review of Agent 9's edit but more a recipe for how you would do your own edit.
 
People just can't let go of John Williams's music for a new interpretation, can they?
 
Hardbackyoyo said:
People just can't let go of John Williams's music for a new interpretation, can they?

It's a fanedit.

The original is still there on the shelf anytime I want to listen to Hans Zimmer's amazing score.
 
Great art on the covers, can u help me find the link ? would love to c the movie ....
 
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