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AvP OUTBREAK by Wraith

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AvP Outbreak V2.01 Faneditors Feedback Version

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AvP OUTBREAK v2.00 Extended opening

Re-enstate the elaborately concieved and reluctantly dropped Myan concieved opening which originally drove me to undertake this fanedit.

This edit incorporates chanege and clich corrections spotted by fellow faneditors totaling just under 3 minutes.
These additional changes are marked* in the description below which is followed by the score enhancements.

NTSC Release at 6000 kbps and at 448 kps 5:1 surround DL
A movie and trailer only SL version is also available.
An MP4 version is also available

AvP was 1hr 48 min 31 sec
AvPr was 1hr 40 min 49 sec

AvP 1 hr 14min 49
AvPr 1 hr 09min 29

AvP cut by 32 min 06 sec
AvPr cut by 31 min 03 sec

New Title Sequence 2 min 14 sec
Apocalypto footage 1 min 59 sec
Cocoon footage 20 sec
Outbreak Footage 3 min 41 sec
New End Titles 4 min 29 sec

NEW RUN TIME 2hrs 36min 13 sec for v2.01

I have detailed exhaustively ALL the changes

F O R P U R I S T S
I have incorporated additional music cues from Predator, predator 2, Alien, Aliens and Alien 3

Please rate and comment...

Enjoy...and next...a James Bond reworking.

W R A I T H
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Single DISC DUal Layer
Main Film AvP Outbreak 2.0
Movie and About this edit
ALL DELETED SCENES (49 min)
3 Trailers
Abandoned opening titles and trailers.
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AIM to turn the AvP movies into a single and WORTHY member of BOTH franchises by
removing over exposition
removing repetition
removing misplaced humor
removing all teenagers as much as possible
injecting better pace by reordering and trimming scenes
adding more plot using footage from Outbreak
scoring a FEW dead sections with music to add atmosphere and tie into franchise
In total 139 scenes sequences or dialogue segments were removed. This excludes other structural changes.

I have also noted below the time points where score enhancements occur and the source of those pieces of music.
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TECHNICAL
NTSC Release at 6000 kbps and at 448 kps 5:1 surround in DL and SL versions
EDITED on DEL Dimension 8300
2 x 1 TB Western Digital SATA Drives
4 gb RAM
Intel 3.2mb GHz Dual Core
Windows XP Sp3
Saphire 1950xt 512mb
Correl Ulead Video Studio 11
DVD Movie Factory 4
Cooledit Pro V 1
Animation in Paint, Photoshop and Photo Pro Plus

EDIT DETAIL v2.00 (SPOILERS FOLLOW)
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See deleted scenes to appreciate the enormity of it all.
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ENJOY

WRAITH

Completely new Opening Titles

001 opening from ALIEN 3 up to FOX FADE
002 segues into slowed section of green hue with new title overlay
003 Title opens with Alien 3 music for about 20sec,
004 segues into theme from AvP the Game with BOTH tracks going at the same time,
005 with an overdubbed fade motif from ALIENS and ALIEN
006 Flash at title name overlaps 3 audio effects from Aliens, AvPgame and AvPr the movie
007 TITLE is in the ALIEN font but crashes in a reverse zoom
008 and segues into the opening from Alien and track 12 of Avp Game
009 Opening Zoom from Cocoon 2
010 Transition to B&W
011 crossfades into shots from Apocalypto all trimed. and condensed. B&W solves the blue colouring issue of the Natives.
012 The AvP backstory is moved up to the opening and expanded as follows
013 48 shots are taken from Apocalypto and cropped to the correct aspect ratio
014 This sequence competely restructures the sacrifice into a tighter sequence and virtually no 2 consequtive shots appear next to eachother in the source material
015 Objective to show mans depravity in worshipping the gods with extensive audio work to tie the sequence together and retain key portions of synched sound.
016 AvP flashback shot of the temple pre-explosion is used twice. Once reversed play and contrast corrected to tie into the eclipse
017 Avp second shot is as in the AvP flashback but moved to the front of the sequence to act as a bridge
018 Eclipse flashes to Predator ship
019 Nuclear flash segues into the arrival of the "gods" in the Myan sequence and is not the conclusion of the flashback.
019 Myan sequence from AvP has one shot trim and deletes the nuclear explosion.
020 Voice over from the AvP flashback also removed since it is incredibly annoying.
021 Extensive audio and remade soundaffects for the sequence.
022 The myan opening and AvP flashback are then tied together thematically using music from Goldeneye soundtrack, track 11 Fatal Weakness and Tracck 12 from the AvP predator PC game.
023 Transition from sequence to Myan dig
024 includes back to colour segue
AvP
025 Additional scoring acts as bridge
026 Over exposition at the dig and cheese removed.
027 present day dig is split into two and is divided by the
028 relocated Predator ship sequence when the beam drills the hole cutting to
029 de-cheesed satatelite station sequence which is trimmed.
030 which acts as the trigger for the heat bloom detected by the satelite is relocated to here as well
031 voice overlap at tail end ties back to the dig
032 The end of the dig cuts to the helicopter ride which is the first time we meet Miss Woods the intro being deleted as contrived and unrequired.
033 The chopper ride is also de-cheesed and
034 the point of no return crap is removed
035 and cuts back to the Piper Maru
036 Aboard the piper maru Weylands line SEVEN DAYS AGO is deleted and a number of cheesy over expositions are removed from the next 5 minutes (spot them...go on)
037 Contemplative discussion on Piper Maru looking aurora removes more kids refs chees and scientific description of the aurora....do we really think these people have degrees and do not know what it is!!!!
038 At the whale station mre cheese removed and part of the walk thru trimmed (penguin crap) for pace and for adding tension too soon
039 Score added from expanded Star Trek Motion Picture soundtrack, track 13 Spock Walk intro played at 50% speeed
040 Rim Sequence at station overexposition trimmed and *winch fall removed
041 Inside the pyramid over exposition of glyphs removed.
042 During reveal of sacrificial chamber score overlay from Alien 3 added, track 4 Lento to highten atmosphere
043 Sacrificial chamber dialogue trimmed for Cheese (C) and Overexposition (E) and reordered some sequence moments
044 Ante chamber sequence deleted and departure from sacrificial chamber moved up for pacing and
045 Predator killing of man on surface delayed by 1 scene which cuts better with following scene
046 deleting the line "this is below the sacrificial chambver.
047 deleting "it's a sarcofigous"
048 calander exposition deleted and references to dates not required...apart from it also dates the film.
049 "oh my god" deleted
050 Weyland cough resequence of shots to facilitate dialogue removal of exposicton
051 "dont touch them" deleted
052 continuation of cavern walk and predator scene swiched and reedited.
053 Soldier panic and 2 discussions in cavern with scots scientis removed...cringy
054 Exposition of 10 minute shift theory removed and cheesy look from Miss Woods removed.
055 Cohagem no longer a coward and death reflects this in extensive re edit
056 Further refernces to the 10 min timer sequence of shifting blocks removed.
057 Sebastian and Miss woods now just power run thru and blocks start to shift.
058 Predator zoom on Sebastian trimmed....we get it. An"hes marking himself" deleted.
059 Myan flashback removed and used in intro
060 Exposision before and after flashback trimmed and underscored by Track 7 from Aliens soundtrack
061 Dialogue on returning gun is shifted to walk thru tunnels to avoid visual continuity error.
062 Sebastian in coccoon trimmed and scottish fellow reoved completely as is the shooting of a facehugger.
063 As a result, Miss Woods now just pulls a gun from holster and does not pick one up.
064 Dialogue swearing when Miss Woods sees predator bomb removed.
065 Alien attacking Predator when Miss woods shoots is reedited to remove crap dialogue but keep a great over the sholder shot of the Alien
066*Predator demasking and face minimised and
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067*Transition between movies AvP to AvPr transition is completely reworked in this version.
068 Kids line in forest trimmed...lets keep it gfrown up HUH!
069 Sherrif and Pizzareia scenes at intro cut and replaced by early intro of miltary woman
070*added Cedar Creek caption, Colorado to ensure continuity
071 Tenage scene at house and bullying removed, cut to sheriff.
072 Interior scene of mum coming home cut
073 Face hugger running into tunnel truncates and cuts to
074 moved up predator crash but
075 split predator arrival into two by inserting tramp death but
076 the second tramp death is removed.
077 Tramp death score with track 7 from AvP game at 80% speed
078 contiuing with a trimmed hugger shot with the second half of the predator's arrival
079 Sherrif and eddy wife moved up to divide the Predator ship sequence and avoid hard cut ni the sequence.
080 Search interruption with Eddy's wife deleted
081 First nightsite sequence deleted amd
082 First sewer sequence with kid looking for keys is deleted
083 Buddy's wife trimmed in street and
084 Breakfast intro reordered to remove molly and family including
085 reversed shot of Dallas to eliminate gaze to Molly's mum.
086 Diner Alien attack deleted
087 pool opening fight scene removed
088 Night Sight Alien and Molly run out moved up
089*Power plant at police splits re ordered so that Predator draggin off corpse happens after
090*Troop deployment from Outbreak is now split for pacing and refernce to Californiaa removed from Presidential Briefing
091 Next 8 mins as per AvPr until gun shop two found where scene is trimed and cuts to the first half of Outbreak briefing.
092 second half of the whitehouse briefing from Outbreak which cuts to the hospital shots in AvPr and scene is unified with the alien killing and flatliner for pacing.
093 This means that the scene in the gunshop is also unified for pacing removing one cheesy bit.
094 The unified hospital sequence includes a new scene constructed with Donald Sutherland and the Military giving the green light for clean sweep.
095 single shot removed to cut better to truck departure which no excludes the cheesy internal dialogue.
096 Film plays out as per original cut with one minor dialogue deletion and post crash coda removed. Everyone MUST die to maintain continuity EXCEPT the company who obviously now move to ALIEN etc.
097 End titles play out frmo both movies with a combined truncated score combining both sets of music.
098 Finally 3 additional scoring changes made using portions from Alien, Aliens and Alien 3...each in a seperate scene. go on...find them!!!
099....other choice lines removed include
"what did you say its called"
"Can you drive " deleted
"motherfuckers" deleted
"let's look at pictures of other peoples children"....(that will get you locke up these days)
"the government doesnt lie" deleted
"we're not going to make it are we"
"what is this, the Titanic" DELETED
"what's your loction" and response, deleted for continuity of Cedar Creek
and finally....."god help us all" deleted....

SCORE TIME COUNT ENHANCMENTS for v2.01
No piece of music was used twice, though different portions of same tracks used.

Sources
# denotes cue not used in original film
* denotes music retained from V1.061/1.071
T denotes "Track" on CD

STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE - CD SCORE
GOLDENEYE - CD SCORE
ALIEN DVD ISOLATED SCORE
ALIENS - DELUXE EDITION CD
ALINE 3 - CD SCORE
AvP PC Game Extracted WAV file
Predator 20th Anniversary CD Score
Predator 2 CD SCORE

OPENING TITLES
00 00 31 - Alien 3 : Opening Title T1
00 00 50 - segue into ALIEN Opening motif T1
00 01 55 - segue into opening from ALIENS
00 02 15 - segue back to ALIEN motif
00 02 25 - segue into T12 AvP PC Game
00 02 56 - segue into Goldeneye T 11
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00 04 26 - Theme frmo Predator T31
00 04 31 - segue into T12 AvP PC Game
00 06 48 - Predator T2 Base Arrival
00 07 35 - ALIEN motif from DVD score
*00 18 21- Spock Walk from Star Trek the Motion Picture Score EXPANDED ED - Track 13 (HEY it's Jerry Goldsmith, same composer, same year 1979!! same vibe)
00 23 05 - Predator T2 Space Sequence
*00 23 50- Section from isolated score from original Alien DVD release
00 26 24 - Infra Red enhancement
00 27 22 - Aliens T18 Queen to Bishop
00 27 46 - Aliens T8 Med Lab
00 28 44 - Infra Red enhancement
00 30 06 - Predator T26 Predator Visible
00 30 42 - Infra Red enhancement
*00 31 10- Track 4 Alien 3 Score CD The Beast Within
*00 33 20- Track 1 from original AvP PC Game Score (from game file cache)
00 34 32 - Predator T27 ugly motherfucker
*00 37 30- Track 14 from original AvP PC Game Score (from game file cache)
00 39 39 - Infra Red enhancement
00 39 59 - Aliens T12 Face Huggers
*00 40 28- Track 3 Alien 3 Score CD
00 41 44 - Infra Red enhancement
00 43 19 - Aliens T02 Bad Dreams
00 49 16 - Aliens T18 Queen to Bishop
00 49 44 - Predator T25 Dutch is Challenging
00 51 57 - Aliens T02 Bad Dreams
00 53 24 - Infra Red enhancement
00 55 03 - Infra Red enhancement
*00 55 48- Track 7 Aliens CD Score Atmosphere Station
00 56 22 - Predator T20 The Hunt is on
00 58 34 - Aliens T18 Queen to Bishop
*01 00 09- Track 5 Aliens CD Score Combat Drop
01 01 53 - Infra Red enhancement
01 02 27 - Aliens T18 Queen to Bishop
01 03 10 - Aliens T18 Queen to Bishop
01 03 52 - Aliens T18 Queen to Bishop
01 09 16 - Aliens T18 Queen to Bishop
01 09 32 - Infra Red enhancement
01 12 11 - Predator T16 Night Watch
01 17 07 - Predator T06 Skinned Green Berets
01 19 31 - Predator T25 Dutch is Challenging
01 23 07 - Predator T15 Predator's First Aid
01 24 12 - Predator T14 Mac Mourning
01 25 36 - Predator 2 T11 End title
01 29 34 - Infra Red enhancement
01 31 04 - Infra Red enhancement
*01 32 00- Track 8 from original AvP PC Game Score (from game file cache)
01 35 01 - Predator T11 Anna on thr Run
01 35 15 - Infra Red enhancement
01 35 59 - Predator 2 T06 Rest in Pieces
01 36 48 - Infra Red enhancement
01 40 24 - Predator 2 T06 Rest in Pieces
01 40 36 - Infra Red enhancement
01 40 50 - Infra Red enhancement
01 41 05 - Aliens T10 Sub Level 3
01 42 07 - Infra Red enhancement
01 42 46 - Infra Red enhancement
01 46 30 - Aliens T10 Sub Level 3
01 46 40 - Infra Red enhancement
01 47 49 - Aliens T07 Atmosphere Station
01 50 46 - Aliens T20Bad Dreams (alternate) #
01 52 09 - Predator 2 T08 This is History
*01 54 22- Track 5 Alien 3 Score CD Combat Drop
01 58 02 - Infra Red enhancement
02 00 41 - Aliens T23 Combat Drop (percussion Only)#
020 1 12 - Aliens T24 Hyperspace (Alternate) #
*02 02 00- Track 9 from original AvP PC Game Score (from game file cache)
02 02 25 - Infra Red enhancement
02 13 17 - Predator 2 T11 End title
02 13 45 - Predator 2 T1 Main Title
02 13 47 - Infra Red enhancement
02 16 33 - ALIENS T23 Combat Drop (percussion Only)#
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END TITLES
Predator T31
Predator T30
ALIENS T17
AvPr End Titles
Predator 2 T1
Predator T30


See deleted scenes on disc 2 to appreciate the enormity of it all.

ENJOY

WRAITH
 
Wraith said:
See deleted scenes on disc 2 to appreciate the enormity of it all.

ENJOY

WRAITH
I just tried downloading the bonus disc 2 in anticipation of a finished DL disc 1 but JD is saying files not found for disc 2...

I guess you deleted the that bonus disc along with everything else.

I believe the bonus disc material is NOT on the DL disc 1, is it?
If it isn't, then why delete the bonus disc?

Or did you make a new bonus disc?
 
the audio change log alone sounds phenomenal. I am very psyched.
 
The new DL will contain ALL materials from the previous bonu disc, thus avoiding having to download 2 discs.

There will also be a Movie and trailers version SL and Movie MP4.
W
 
ISO almost loaded. Next MP4, then VIDEO_TS....phew!!!!
 
yes... :) :) 2.4 GB MP4...and it should be actually ready FIRST...probably by tomorrow morning...if it is ready, I will add the refs to the rapidshare section for you. Its just 8 x 200mb files.
By tomorrow evening the ISO will be uploaded....friday the VIDEO TS and then by sunday the SL 4.7GB version movie and trailers only.
WRAITH

BOON if you see this please make sure that the new version is labled 2.01. THX

WRAITH
 
what do you mean by the "Video TS"?
A Video TS folder would be in both the DL and SL discs....
 
:-? yeah its either ISO or Video_TS as they are both means to the same end.
 
iso is a disk image file, the other is dvd folder/ both burn to create a dvd. but people had issues with my previous post when burning, so been asked to post ISO.
 
we had a discussion about this not too long ago.
The result was that most people prefer VIDEO_TS folder, because an ISO has to be created properly to work and some faneditors messed them up, resulting in people having to extract the ISO first.
So, actually a VIDEO_TS folder is all that people need. There is no benefit from an ISO file (except for being comfortable, if created properly) and really absolutely no reason to release both.
 
boon23 said:
we had a discussion about this not too long ago.
The result was that most people prefer VIDEO_TS folder, because an ISO has to be created properly to work and some faneditors messed them up, resulting in people having to extract the ISO first.
So, actually a VIDEO_TS folder is all that people need. There is no benefit from an ISO file (except for being comfortable, if created properly) and really absolutely no reason to release both.

I can see the logic behind most people's dislike of ISOs,and making both is obviously a waste of time, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that ISOs are recommended because inexperienced people find them easier to burn.
 
yeah, it is very possible I wrote that, since all DVD scene releases are ISO and yes, they are easier to burn for people. The discussion we had here though stated clearly that since some faneditors create faulty ISO, VIDEO_TS is the preferred way.
 
Fair enough! That's good to know. I shall remember that for future releases.
 
VIDEO TS it is then...the ISO has only 13 parts loaded so far from 40...having a really unstable time uploading at the moment....MP4 though has 2 pieces left
 
Sorry to hear you're having an unstable time uploading, Wraith. It can be a pain.

There always seems to be a gremlin in the works. :) I'm sure you'll figure it out soon.
 
I can't believe how excited i am for all to see this one...and I have it here....for a week now trying to get it out the building so to speak....GRRRRRR!!!!!

1 to go on the MP4,
 
No rush... just hurry up :)

Perhaps including an md5 file for the uploads can be included.
If anybody gets CRC errors on extraction, at least it willl be easy to figure out which file gave the CRC error.
So if alot of people get the same bad file, then we can cofirm if a file got corrupt during uploading.

This happened recently with LOTR Book V or the re-released LOTR Book I, I forget which one.
 
MP4 posted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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