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Gieferg said:just hate the 17,000 B.C. thing. It just doesn't seem anywhere close to old enough for a race like the Transformers.
wait a sec...Who said that they're that old? (or young)
Primes could be even several millions year old (or more) at the time of Fallen's...well...fall. Yes, they were ancient ancestors, but transformers race must have existed long before this event (as they've been traveling through the universe long before arriving to Earth). So only the autobot vs decepticons war which was supposedly started by Fallen's rebellion would be 17 000 year old, not transformers race.
I prefer when Primes sacrificed their lives for humans than for dinosaurs, especially when there is no reason for that second version to be any better than the first one.
The problem I have is that they are a very old race, and yet the events, or "the fall" is treated as some ancient event that happened a long long time ago in Transoformers history, but relative to the life span of an average Transformer, it wasn't very long at all, and yet somehow they've lost their entire history and language in this time. I just don't like it at all.
And what I've done doesn't remove the possibility of it being 17,000 B.C. or humans the Prime's were protecting, it just doesn't explicitly lock it down, and leaves it more open to the possibility of the Prime's being here millions of years ago if that's what one would like to believe.
Removing everything relating to this (with the exception of Jetfire's talk) also saves the revelation that Transformers were on Earth previously until Simmons reveals this to Sam and company.
On a side note: The DVD-9 will be available at MU in about an hour and a half.