Iron Man 2: At the Core of It

[Masirimso17]

To echo Zarius, him looking back at Pepper adds weight to the scene, I couldn't tell it was edited.

Except for the abrupt transition and the lack of response to her. It seems off, and I can't tell if it is because I'm only seeing this clip without the context, or if it is just not going to work.

I agree. Feels very off.

 

[TinyBreadMouse]

If I may suggest a solution, I think Pepper should stop talking during the scene, and we're left with Tony ignoring her and staring at the diorama before the quick cut to him driving away.

 

[Masirimso17]

If I may suggest a solution, I think Pepper should stop talking during the scene, and we're left with Tony ignoring her and staring at the diorama before the quick cut to him driving away.

That's a good idea. We can linger on the diorama for a moment before cutting to the car (without the wipe).

 

[TinyBreadMouse]

I'd personally be fine with the wipe if there was a pause between it and Pepper's dialog. It wouldn't hurt to see both.

 

[Masirimso17]

In my humble opinion the wipe looks cheap. Maybe if executed better somehow? Softer Star Wars style wipe? Or a quicker wipe?

Nevertheless I think a quick cut would be better.

 

[lapis molari]

If I may suggest a solution, I think Pepper should stop talking during the scene, and we're left with Tony ignoring her and staring at the diorama before the quick cut to him driving away.

That's a good idea. We can linger on the diorama for a moment before cutting to the car (without the wipe).

I'll try shifting Pepper's audio, so she ends when Tony looks over at her. I expect that'll make him looking even more natural, and creates a silence while he stares at the Expo model.

I don't think I want to lose the wipe, but I'll experiment with some different speeds and styles.

 

[Hymie]

Are there wipes in any other Marvel films?  I can't think of any off the top of my head and that, mixed with execution, just makes a poor combination.

 

[lapis molari]

Are there wipes in any other Marvel films?...

I... don't know. But there are in mine.  

I agree that flawed wipes are distracting and make a video look less professional.

But wipes are like punctuation: when used correctly they add clarity. Depending on how its applied, a wipe suggests a passage of time or place that a hard cut doesn't. It can focus your attention or suggest a direction of movement. In short: Don't nix Wipes on principle, use them judiciously as one option in your toolkit.

 

[lapis molari]

It is better! Shifting Pepper's voice a few seconds improves the cadence of the scene. And, while I liked my wipe, the whole thing works stronger without it.

I like an improved scene more than I dislike being proved wrong, so thank you @"Masirimso17" and @"TinyBreadMouse" .

pw: fanedit.org

 

[Zarius]

A bit better, I can still hear an echo when Pepper talks though at 0:03

 

[lapis molari]

A bit better, I can still hear an echo when Pepper talks though at 0:03

That's Tony mumbling, not Pepper's echo. Their voices overlap and their frequencies are too close. I can't noise-cancel Tony out without cutting into Pepper's voice in a way that's more noticeable and distracting.

For the audio clean-up of the Senate Hearing deleted scene, I ran into a similar source-material imperfection. To mute the rustling of Pepper's clothes as she walks, I tried several "rustles" from Freesound.org. They helped, but it's not perfect because the rustling also overlaps with the frequency of Pepper's voice. So I settled on the balance I find least distracting.

 

[TinyBreadMouse]

It is better! Shifting Pepper's voice a few seconds improves the cadence of the scene. And, while I liked my wipe, the whole thing works stronger without it.

I like an improved scene more than I dislike being proved wrong, so thank you @"Masirimso17" and @"TinyBreadMouse" .

pw: fanedit.org

It's a lot better, and while I also really liked your wipe (something uniquely done by the editor that went beyond just shifting and cutting scenes), I also agree that it works better as a quick cut.

 

[TM2YC]

This edit is now on ifdb.

 

[lapis molari]

This edit is now on ifdb.

Thank you, Jarvis.

 

[Masirimso17]

Sweet! Congrats, @"lapis molari"

 

[Zarius]

Enjoyed the edit @"lapis molari" , and left you a review. I do sort of nag it a bit for the use of wipes (especially after all the help you got ensuring you didn't need a wipe for one scene in this thread), but it wasn't too much of an issue.

 

[lapis molari]

@"Zarius" thank you for the considered reviews, my friend. That was fast, did you watch IM2 and Cap3 back to back? 

No worries about being critical of the few wipes I added. I know they're a bit love-'m-or-hate-'m. The most obvious one, the circle zoom-out when Tony plays DJ (with the round record on the player), just makes me smile. It was too fun not to add it in.

I much prefer critical reviews that have content, to reviews that praise without explaining why. The latter don't help me figure out whether I want to see a particular edit.

 

[Zarius]

@"Zarius" thank you for the considered reviews, my friend. That was fast, did you watch IM2 and Cap3 back to back? 

I watched Civil War this morning, and Iron Man 2 right after tea-time, helped me cool my jets after a nice big roast of chicken

 

[lapis molari]

Hurray! Iron Man 2: At the Core of It wins Fan Edit Of The Month. Thank you all for your support, feedback, and enthusiasm!

 

[lifeincontext]

Where can I access this??