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FvJ (A NegaJuice Fanedit) - Password in First Post
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About to start a marathon viewing.
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Neglify said:Thank you for the review Whispers! Glad you enjoyed it.
I do hope you eventually check out Disc 4, yes there are a lot of boobs, but some nice Alternate Endings to FvJ and more NegaJuice commentary snippets.
No problem Neg.... We had some back and forth via PM while I watched Disc 1 and 2 but I felt it deserved a full review for the masses....
Thanks to you and Juice for your hard work
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Well I won't complete the edit but I think i will post a short review after each one because otherwise I will be too intimidated to write a super giga long review:
Freddy's Dead:
Man the original movie is just hilarious and I love to watch it drunk with friends. Still when I first watched the entire series in one run I liked some ideas of Nightmare 6 - the strange village, the madness in springwood, freddy bending reality. it was not nearly as scary as the original Nightmare but better than freddy just returning and killing.
So i really liked some aspects especially if you watch it as part of a franchise - because for some reason when watching a franchise in one sitting you are more inclined to look at the things you like than look at the terrible things
With that I must say that Juice has pretty much distilled those ideas from the overall idiocy. No gaming, no chalkboard and so on. The acting unfortunately can not be edited to oscar-level so a few idiotic moments have to be here because otherwise the plot won't work.
With the over the top nature gone a few creepy things remain that are originally buried beneath the powerglove. Such as the creepy earpiece or the very disturbing rapist father.
Because 1.5 major dream sequences have been removed there is a bit where the plot has a notable jump because we don't see the overly elaborate kill. Still it kinda works and what i like is that the dreams are played more like a mystery. in the original the kids fall asleep, are chased through an overlong dream and then killed only to be found by the others.
Here the kids vanish into the dream world and we like the suriving protagonists have no idea where the others are until something strange is happening. So it feels much more like a suspenseful movie than the over the top mess that was freddy's dead.
My only real criticism would be the ending. Because the Freddy vision is restored there is the moment when Kathryn gets the 3D glasses. The ending is done via seamless branching so that one can choose at the beginning of the movie between freddy vision or no freddy vision. I would have liked that the 3D glasses would have been removed from the ending not featuring the freddy vision as it really takes on out of the movie. The glasses were originally just there to tell the audience when it was time to put on their 3D glasses and this effect gets lost if one is just watching it in 2D.
The movie is still no movie on par with nightmare 1,3 and 7 imo but it is a much more streamlined product for a marathon franchise viewing.
Still for a fun-drunk night nothing beats the original
Freddy's Dead:
Man the original movie is just hilarious and I love to watch it drunk with friends. Still when I first watched the entire series in one run I liked some ideas of Nightmare 6 - the strange village, the madness in springwood, freddy bending reality. it was not nearly as scary as the original Nightmare but better than freddy just returning and killing.
So i really liked some aspects especially if you watch it as part of a franchise - because for some reason when watching a franchise in one sitting you are more inclined to look at the things you like than look at the terrible things
With that I must say that Juice has pretty much distilled those ideas from the overall idiocy. No gaming, no chalkboard and so on. The acting unfortunately can not be edited to oscar-level so a few idiotic moments have to be here because otherwise the plot won't work.
With the over the top nature gone a few creepy things remain that are originally buried beneath the powerglove. Such as the creepy earpiece or the very disturbing rapist father.
Because 1.5 major dream sequences have been removed there is a bit where the plot has a notable jump because we don't see the overly elaborate kill. Still it kinda works and what i like is that the dreams are played more like a mystery. in the original the kids fall asleep, are chased through an overlong dream and then killed only to be found by the others.
Here the kids vanish into the dream world and we like the suriving protagonists have no idea where the others are until something strange is happening. So it feels much more like a suspenseful movie than the over the top mess that was freddy's dead.
My only real criticism would be the ending. Because the Freddy vision is restored there is the moment when Kathryn gets the 3D glasses. The ending is done via seamless branching so that one can choose at the beginning of the movie between freddy vision or no freddy vision. I would have liked that the 3D glasses would have been removed from the ending not featuring the freddy vision as it really takes on out of the movie. The glasses were originally just there to tell the audience when it was time to put on their 3D glasses and this effect gets lost if one is just watching it in 2D.
The movie is still no movie on par with nightmare 1,3 and 7 imo but it is a much more streamlined product for a marathon franchise viewing.
Still for a fun-drunk night nothing beats the original
Just catching up on all the reviews and what not and just wanted to say, Thanks to all of you for the kind words, I like Neg am just glad you all are enjoying our little brain child. It was a fun adventure editing the films and getting them ready for release. Neg and I put alot of time into these edits and needless to say we prolly love them a little too much lol.
After people have had time to watch it im sure Neg and I will start to talk about the ending but I am happy that everyone seems to be "getting" the ending we fabricated for FvJ.
To Sunarep, regarding the 3d glasses in the end of Final Nightmare, I had cut them at one point in the edit process, however i found the end hard to smooth out without them, because like it or not they are not just a plot point in Final nightmare they are a HUGE plot line for Final Nightmare, which is sad and shows how far the franchise fell before it was snubbed out like the rabid dog it had became.
But seriously I'm glad to see everyone enjoying this as much as us
After people have had time to watch it im sure Neg and I will start to talk about the ending but I am happy that everyone seems to be "getting" the ending we fabricated for FvJ.
To Sunarep, regarding the 3d glasses in the end of Final Nightmare, I had cut them at one point in the edit process, however i found the end hard to smooth out without them, because like it or not they are not just a plot point in Final nightmare they are a HUGE plot line for Final Nightmare, which is sad and shows how far the franchise fell before it was snubbed out like the rabid dog it had became.
But seriously I'm glad to see everyone enjoying this as much as us
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I finally had a chance to watch the fanedit "Friday the 13th: The Legend of Crystal Lake". I mentioned this edit in the commentary track for "Long Night At Camp Blood".
I am super happy because my intention works (almost) perfectly. "Long Night At Camp Blood" is an official sequel to the fanedit "Friday the 13th: The Legend of Crystal Lake".
I am super happy because my intention works (almost) perfectly. "Long Night At Camp Blood" is an official sequel to the fanedit "Friday the 13th: The Legend of Crystal Lake".
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I really want to thank LastSurvivor and TMBTM for their reviews of FvJ.
Won't comment too much... (I lie...)
(I don't exactly how Juice felt about his intentions with the 3D, so if I'm wrong here, Juice'll let me know.)
The way I see it, the "Freddy Vision" 3D in the edit is kind of supposed to look like rubbish. The 3D of 80s horror movies is just trash. But it's beautifully trashed.
You know what, I'm right there with you. When we recorded the commentary for that edit there were so many things I saw that I could have (and probably should have) done differently. C'est la vie.
My favorite bit of editing in FvJ right there was the pinball sequence.
Yeah, Freddy for me doesn't get any scarier than "This is God" and sadly he just doesn't have any moments anywhere close to that in any of the sequels.
Check out Disc 4. ;-)
Thank you so much. On the surface one could think "Oh, another fanedit of Freddy vs. Jason. Well, I saw UA's edit so whatever." But they're definitely different.
I really want to thank you both for watching them. (LS, even though you were a bit disappointed with them, I'm glad you enjoyed what you did.)
Won't comment too much... (I lie...)
LastSurvivor said:
(I don't exactly how Juice felt about his intentions with the 3D, so if I'm wrong here, Juice'll let me know.)
The way I see it, the "Freddy Vision" 3D in the edit is kind of supposed to look like rubbish. The 3D of 80s horror movies is just trash. But it's beautifully trashed.
LastSurvivor said:
You know what, I'm right there with you. When we recorded the commentary for that edit there were so many things I saw that I could have (and probably should have) done differently. C'est la vie.
LastSurvivor said:
My favorite bit of editing in FvJ right there was the pinball sequence.
TMBTM said:
Yeah, Freddy for me doesn't get any scarier than "This is God" and sadly he just doesn't have any moments anywhere close to that in any of the sequels.
TMBTM said:
Check out Disc 4. ;-)
TMBTM said:
Thank you so much. On the surface one could think "Oh, another fanedit of Freddy vs. Jason. Well, I saw UA's edit so whatever." But they're definitely different.
So to you, Dwight Fry.
to you, Dwight Fry.I really want to thank you both for watching them. (LS, even though you were a bit disappointed with them, I'm glad you enjoyed what you did.)
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Neglify said:On the surface one could think "Oh, another fanedit of Freddy vs. Jason. Well, I saw UA's edit so whatever." But they're definitely different.
So
We all know that was your original intention all along, Mr. Lucas.
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Oh don't worry, I certainly enjoyed watching all 3 edits
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Something quite strange happens when played disc 1 or 3 (and the second alternate FvJ ending on disc 4) on VLC: the image appears horizontally squished.
It does play right on Media Player Classic, though, and will likely play right on about any TV set. But I thought I'd mention it anyway. Strange that doesn't happen on disc 2 or the rest of the extras, maybe not everything was encoded the same way?
It does play right on Media Player Classic, though, and will likely play right on about any TV set. But I thought I'd mention it anyway. Strange that doesn't happen on disc 2 or the rest of the extras, maybe not everything was encoded the same way?
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Weird. Was disc 2 encoded differently? Or it's just that the glitch would appear randomly even with the exact same settings?
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Maybe those guys at the end of FvJ had something to do with it, considering the outcome? ;-)
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Final Nightmare: The Horror Cut (by juice4z0)
I’m going to be honest. I’ve only seen Wes Craven’s Original Classic, Freddy vs. Jason, and the awful remake. The first Nightmare movie and Freddy vs. Jason are awesome but somehow I never felt like I needed/wanted to see the rest, so I didn’t. But I felt that I should see this fanedit if I was going to see the other two, you know out of respectful to juice4z0, and also to experience FvJ the right way in the right order. Anyway, since I haven’t seen the original cut I can only say that everything looked good audio/video and no cut was noticed. Also want to mention that the 3d section was integrated nicely (watched that part with my F13 part 3d glasses)
Commentary: Juice is stoned and Neglify keeps saying “Fuck yeah Dude!”
Memorable part:
49minutes in...
Juice4z0: You have a hard on for this guy.
Neglify: I know right, fucking Parker man, my boy.
Juice4z0: Is he even still alive?
Neglify: Probably, let me check, hold on.
Juice4z0: It’s hard to say, Michael Clarke Duncan died the other day.
*sound of keys being typed*
Neglify: Yeah he’s still alive.
Since this is Juice4z0’s fanedit he does most of the talking.
Friday the 13th: The Long Night At Camp Blood (by Neglify)
This was a good edit but not as good as the original cut. Actually IMO there is nothing in Part 4 that should be cut (the computer don’t lie) but the added ass and gore was nice.
I never liked Jason Goes to Hell so the new beginning I didn’t care much for (the only thing that's watchable in JGtH is the pre-credits and the Freddy cameo) but the part Neglify added featured four boobs (two on each girl) so that's four points right there.
Commentary: They discus everything from nudity, inserting penetration in future fanedits, 70s bush, nudity, Jamie Lee Curtis looking like a dyke, the fact that Kimberly Beck hasn’t done nudity, idea of editing a porno, nudity, the fanedit and finally they talk about some nudity.
Yeah I almost forgot, they also talk about boobs.
FvJ
This is the best edit of the three and probably the only one I’ll see again.
The new opening is very good. Putting more Jason into it makes it feels more like a vs. movie. Not a Nightmare movie featuring Jason. Not a big fan of the Part 8 material though (worst part of part 8 IMO) The new aspect ratio helps separate this from the original cut and makes the movie feel fresh.
The new ending opens the door for more vs. movies by having Freddy and Jason being part of the same universe as other horror icons (as a side note: I haven’t seen the movie that you used for the ending)
Commentary: (unfortunately) NegaJuice spoils (for me anyway) that the girl in the shower, is a body double. Fuck.
Memorable part:
8 ½ minutes in...
Juice4z0: This is still all about Freddy...well at the moment it’s all about those tits.
Neglify: And that ass.
DISC 4 (bonus disc)
FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP
The only minus for me is that there aren't any chapters. And that's something I missed.
I’m going to be honest. I’ve only seen Wes Craven’s Original Classic, Freddy vs. Jason, and the awful remake. The first Nightmare movie and Freddy vs. Jason are awesome but somehow I never felt like I needed/wanted to see the rest, so I didn’t. But I felt that I should see this fanedit if I was going to see the other two, you know out of respectful to juice4z0, and also to experience FvJ the right way in the right order. Anyway, since I haven’t seen the original cut I can only say that everything looked good audio/video and no cut was noticed. Also want to mention that the 3d section was integrated nicely (watched that part with my F13 part 3d glasses)
Commentary: Juice is stoned and Neglify keeps saying “Fuck yeah Dude!”
Memorable part:
49minutes in...
Juice4z0: You have a hard on for this guy.
Neglify: I know right, fucking Parker man, my boy.
Juice4z0: Is he even still alive?
Neglify: Probably, let me check, hold on.
Juice4z0: It’s hard to say, Michael Clarke Duncan died the other day.
*sound of keys being typed*
Neglify: Yeah he’s still alive.
Since this is Juice4z0’s fanedit he does most of the talking.
Friday the 13th: The Long Night At Camp Blood (by Neglify)
This was a good edit but not as good as the original cut. Actually IMO there is nothing in Part 4 that should be cut (the computer don’t lie) but the added ass and gore was nice.
I never liked Jason Goes to Hell so the new beginning I didn’t care much for (the only thing that's watchable in JGtH is the pre-credits and the Freddy cameo) but the part Neglify added featured four boobs (two on each girl) so that's four points right there.
Commentary: They discus everything from nudity, inserting penetration in future fanedits, 70s bush, nudity, Jamie Lee Curtis looking like a dyke, the fact that Kimberly Beck hasn’t done nudity, idea of editing a porno, nudity, the fanedit and finally they talk about some nudity.
Yeah I almost forgot, they also talk about boobs.
FvJ
This is the best edit of the three and probably the only one I’ll see again.
The new opening is very good. Putting more Jason into it makes it feels more like a vs. movie. Not a Nightmare movie featuring Jason. Not a big fan of the Part 8 material though (worst part of part 8 IMO) The new aspect ratio helps separate this from the original cut and makes the movie feel fresh.
The new ending opens the door for more vs. movies by having Freddy and Jason being part of the same universe as other horror icons (as a side note: I haven’t seen the movie that you used for the ending)
Commentary: (unfortunately) NegaJuice spoils (for me anyway) that the girl in the shower, is a body double. Fuck.
Memorable part:
8 ½ minutes in...
Juice4z0: This is still all about Freddy...well at the moment it’s all about those tits.
Neglify: And that ass.
DISC 4 (bonus disc)
FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP
The only minus for me is that there aren't any chapters. And that's something I missed.