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LastSurvivor said:I'll do my best Neg
It's hard to make promises when Sam Smith's music is known for making pants suddenly go flying off their owners.*
*Not really.
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LastSurvivor said:I'll do my best Neg
Ugh his Bond song will be making bricks suddenly go flying at himAztek463 said:It's hard to make promises when Sam Smith's music is known for making pants suddenly go flying off their owners.*
*Not really.
musiced921 said:Ugh his Bond song will be making bricks suddenly go flying at him
dangermouse said:I predict the song will be the first to go in a fanedit!
TM2YC said:I heard/read a lot of comments that 'Spectre' has "Gigantic plot holes that you could drive a ->insert name of large vehicle here<- through and that the whole story made zero sense". I didn't really notice any that I recall, so I'm curious to know what these people are referrring to? IF YOU DO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION SPOILER TAG IT!
^^^A THOUSAND TIMES THIS. The giant hangup with plot holes (and in TV and comics: retcon) is destroying online film criticism.Aztek463 said:"Plot hole" is the new buzzword for "parts of a movie that weren't over-explained." One of the more popular ones is "How did Bruce Wayne get back to Gotham in The Dark Knight Rises?" That's simply a question, a valid one sure, but not a plot hole.
LastSurvivor said:on a personal level I didn't like the attempts to try and tie all the Daniel Craig Bond films together. I mean, I get Quantum perhaps being part of Spectre
LastSurvivor said:Plus, Blofeld being a kind of brother to Bond??? Hated that too
LastSurvivor said:Well, should I find time next year, I think I know what I may well be fanediting
Aztek463 said:Some retcons are okay to complain about. To take a comics example: there's a character in The Walking Dead who lost their hand fairly early on. To have that suddenly reappear and for everyone to act like it was there all along would be pretty lame. Same with undoing a major character's death (goodness knows there have been many)!
theslime said:Sure, some are stupid. But in TV shows, it's really hard to make a show for several years without screwing up some aspect of continuity. The obsessions with details and retcon made Lost fans into pedantic assholes, while (strangely) Breaking Bad got away with retconning not just key parts of the plot, but even the setup to the ending itself (which Gilligan, unlike Lindelof and Cuse, literally made up as he went along). Gilligan basically says that planning everything in advance all the time is limiting the options you have to make the show better later on, and I agree with him. If Aaron Paul hadn't had such great chemistry with Cranston, he would have been killed off in the first season finale (as was the original plan), and we can all agree that that would have been a terrible waste. My other favourite retcons: the entire character of Benjamin Linus from Lost, and the Black Lodge of the Twin Peaks finale.
Retcons in comics are a special breed, they're mostly there because the continuity porn crowd would go ape (even moreso than usual, that is) if there wasn't a reason for a character's reappearance after death. I'm of the opinion that continuity across a wide variety of stories every month - and for decades! - is basically a fool's errand, but I see the appeal too. That said, I do enjoy continuity-spanning stories like Final Crisis and the original "Flash of Two Worlds!" story, so I guess I'm really just a hypocrite.
theslime said:Sure, some are stupid. But in TV shows, it's really hard to make a show for several years without screwing up some aspect of continuity. The obsessions with details and retcon made Lost fans into pedantic assholes, while (strangely) Breaking Bad got away with retconning not just key parts of the plot, but even the setup to the ending itself (which Gilligan, unlike Lindelof and Cuse, literally made up as he went along). Gilligan basically says that planning everything in advance all the time is limiting the options you have to make the show better later on, and I agree with him. If Aaron Paul hadn't had such great chemistry with Cranston, he would have been killed off in the first season finale (as was the original plan), and we can all agree that that would have been a terrible waste. My other favourite retcons: the entire character of Benjamin Linus from Lost, and the Black Lodge of the Twin Peaks finale.
Retcons in comics are a special breed, they're mostly there because the continuity porn crowd would go ape (even moreso than usual, that is) if there wasn't a reason for a character's reappearance after death. I'm of the opinion that continuity across a wide variety of stories every month - and for decades! - is basically a fool's errand, but I see the appeal too. That said, I do enjoy continuity-spanning stories like Final Crisis and the original "Flash of Two Worlds!" story, so I guess I'm really just a hypocrite.
Didn't notice any green tint. Don't think a regrade is necessary. This film is beautiful already.Nimibro said:On a technical level, the film had a weird green tint to it most of the time. A regrade of this film could really benefit it because it's otherwise beautiful.