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JAMES CAMERON RETURNS TO TERMINATOR
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If this reasoning had been put in the movie, it would have made the movie better. TMBTM
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(11-04-2019, 05:11 PM)TM2YC Wrote: This rather funny but full of spoilers so just for people that have already seen it, or have decided not to bother...


Hilarious!

And wow!  After hearing it re-summarized this way, I may have to re-evaluate my Terminator rankings.  Maybe GENISYS is better than Dark Fate?

Both are so problematic for me.   I do not like the casting in Genisys.  And both movies suffer from a sensory overload CGI bloat fest in the third act.  But Genisys is a better looking movie and better edited.  And I guess it tried something original...sort of...  Tongue
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I haven’t seen the movie and likely won’t (at least until it’s free to watch in some format), but the entire Terminator franchise has always been plagued by huge plot holes. I mean John’s very existence is a plot hole. And the whole reason Arnold has skin in the first one is thrown out the window in the second one. And on and on. I think you have to simply enjoy the ride with these movies and not think about them too much.
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(11-05-2019, 01:28 AM)Moe_Syzlak Wrote: I mean John’s very existence is a plot hole.

Not in the first movie. Kyle Reese always was John's father because there never was another 1984 than the one we see in the first movie. That's what the movie is telling us. That's the famous "grandfather paradox" turned into the perfect loop story I'm always talking about.
John's existence begins to be a plot hole at the moment the writters are trying to play with different timelines and don't know how to handle that paradox. That's why the Terminator franchise struggled to make coherent movies. They are movies about time travel that sadly should not play with different timelines because as soon as they do it they are fucking with the original concept.
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