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wait, what about 2001? What material is missing? There’s more 2001? I love 2001, so I’d love to see more of itI'd like to start with 2001 with the removed material
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wait, what about 2001? What material is missing? There’s more 2001? I love 2001, so I’d love to see more of itI'd like to start with 2001 with the removed material
Well, we have Soderberg's alternate (shorter) take I guess....(withdrawn after WB and Kubrick estate "politely" asked....)Man I’d love to see an extended cut of 2001.
Please ask first via PM if you don't know. This time it seems like this is the right place.Not sure if this is the right spot to put this,
A complete original vision isn't possible because not everything from the original script was filmed, and Arrow is releasing an Unseen workprint as part of a Hellraiser 1-4 collection next month. https://bloody-disgusting.com/home-...-about-the-version-arrow-video-has-unearthed/Hellraiser 4's original cut is my holy grail (or white whale, not sure which analogy is more fitting). Basically, director Kevin Yagher made this film, then Miramax complained that Pinhead doesn't show up early enough. Yagher recut it multiple times to appease them, Miramax demanded reshoots. Yagher quit, Miramax brought in a new director, in the end Yagher chose to go uncredited for the final product.
One of Yagher's attempts at recutting the film has been leaked (I think it might even have an official release in Germany?), it's the closest thing we have, but it's not the complete original vision. You can find a fan reconstruction on youtube, using the theatrical bluray, the workprint, narrated still images, and one sequence is animated using The Sims.
What was so bad about the Ayer script pages (I haven't read them myself)?Terence Malick's first cut of The Thin Red Line was five hours long and the editing process was an absolute massacre.
Billy Bob Thornton (as the narrator), Mickey Rourke, Lukas Haas, and Bill Pullman's roles were removed completely. Adrien Brody went from the lead character to about five minutes of screentime (something he didn't discover until he went to an early screening). George Clooney and John Travolta had about 90% of their scenes cut.
Christopher Columbus confirmed in 2015 that there's an R-rated cut of Mrs. Doubtfire.
And we can't forget the infamous David Ayer cut of Suicide Squad... though anybody who has read the script pages from the scenes that were removed would probably like to forget them.
I would love to see all those versions of those movies.Not sure if this is the right spot to put this, but I wanna learn about some lost and rumored cuts of films we know exist. Or could exist: What are some that you guys know of? Particularly in animation and sci-fi?
Ones I have heard of:
Batman Forever The Schumacher Cut
Exodus Gods & Kings rumored 4hr cut
Blade Runner rumored 4hr workprint (aka the 8th cut)
Suicide Squad - Ayer Cut
The Flash - 4HR Cut?
Fantastic Four Trank Cut
But any others?
I should also add if anyone knows of official documentaries on the cuts that exist, providing a source to that would be great.
They're just more of the trite, edgelord stuff that permeated the theatrical cut, only most of it is cut Joker scenes. Ayer continues to assert to this day that a genius Jared Leto performance was left on the cutting room floor, but given what we saw in Suicide Squad and Zack Snyder's Justice League I don't think there's much of a case.What was so bad about the Ayer script pages (I haven't read them myself)?
All that extra footage would certainly benefit Ascendant!I'd love to watch the last cut of The Rise of Skywalker that JJ Abrams supposedly approved of which was 2:37 in early December. Rumor has it Disney then forced them to cut it down to 2:22. Allegedly, the first act of the movie was arranged completely differently.
There is some circumstantial evidence to back this up, for instance the soundtrack cue sheet has the track arranged in their 'original' order before all the re arranging happened. Also the Art Of book was recalled last minute and reprinted, and ended up removing lots of stuff from the first act. Look up "the Oracle", this was meant to guide Kylo Ren towards Vader's Castle, where he finds the wayfinder. There were also set pictures of Hux and Kylo Ren on Mustafar together with Vader's Castle in the background. This was all cut and Kylo simply just got the wayfinder nowI think the JJ cut might just be a rumor at least the 3 hour cut.