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Thanks a lot... it''s something to do while stuck indoors....Absolutely wonderful. The work and effort you guys do is honestly inspiring.
FIRST, massive thanks for pointing those tech glitches. I will go back in and re-render. (Lord knows how that wipe got in there).I watched both the Wraith and the Epic Cuts, and generally liked both, but there were a few issues I thought might be better to bring up here and not in a review. Some are issues I had with Superman 2: Donner Cut and hoped would be addressed at least in the WC, if not the EC, and some are technical.
Wraith Cut:
I loved the vision and the added materials (video and music). However, I felt that keeping the second diner scene did disservice to Superman's character. I know it's in the S2DC, but it happens after Superman turned back time and effectively erased the events of the previous days - including the first encounter with the bully. The result is that Clark essentially bullies a man without provocation.
Generally, I indeed prefer the way S2DC avoided the Super-Kiss as a way of erasing Lois's memories, but making the Earth spin in the wrong direction makes zero sense to me. Maybe there is a way to show Superman flying really fast around the Earth and then somehow repurposing some scene where he flies through a tunnel of light to symbolize the time travel? It is a terrible plot device (because it undoes much of the film), but at least it will be less horrible scientifically?
I also felt that the beginning was a bit out of order - sending Kal-El should be the last thing Jor-El does before the explosion, I think. The trial of Zod and his posse should take place before that, when the crisis is not imminent (why send them to the Phantom Zone if the entire planet is going to explode?).
Technical issues:
I had two issues with the sound. The first was at the 00:02:15 mark - my speakers suddenly stopped working, and I lost audio for the film. Only by restarting the video and skipping past 00:02:18 was I able to hear the audio.
The second issue was at the 00:40:33 mark - after saying "Truth, Justice" the audio disappears for two seconds and then returns.
I also had a minor issue with the text at the bottom right corner, indicating the source of each scene. It felt like watching a workprint and not a proper edit.
Woof, that came out long. Again, generally I really liked this edit, and I know it is your vision (so I'm sure you considered the plot issues I brought up). So - Well done! If you can fix the technical issues, I would love to know.
Oh, and regarding the Epic Cut - very impressive and highly enjoyable. I had the same issues with the narrative (that Ending...), and one technical issue - at the 00:35:53 there was a very weird wipe-like transition when Clark kneels in the barn.
Cheers,
Bo
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Hey, THANKS!Left you a review (or rather a 'puff piece') for the Donner Cut. Good job.
I'm loving the new ending....Thanks again.I watched both the Wraith and the Epic Cuts, and generally liked both, but there were a few issues I thought might be better to bring up here and not in a review. Some are issues I had with Superman 2: Donner Cut and hoped would be addressed at least in the WC, if not the EC, and some are technical.
Wraith Cut:
I loved the vision and the added materials (video and music). However, I felt that keeping the second diner scene did disservice to Superman's character. I know it's in the S2DC, but it happens after Superman turned back time and effectively erased the events of the previous days - including the first encounter with the bully. The result is that Clark essentially bullies a man without provocation.
Generally, I indeed prefer the way S2DC avoided the Super-Kiss as a way of erasing Lois's memories, but making the Earth spin in the wrong direction makes zero sense to me. Maybe there is a way to show Superman flying really fast around the Earth and then somehow repurposing some scene where he flies through a tunnel of light to symbolize the time travel? It is a terrible plot device (because it undoes much of the film), but at least it will be less horrible scientifically?
I also felt that the beginning was a bit out of order - sending Kal-El should be the last thing Jor-El does before the explosion, I think. The trial of Zod and his posse should take place before that, when the crisis is not imminent (why send them to the Phantom Zone if the entire planet is going to explode?).
Technical issues:
I had two issues with the sound. The first was at the 00:02:15 mark - my speakers suddenly stopped working, and I lost audio for the film. Only by restarting the video and skipping past 00:02:18 was I able to hear the audio.
The second issue was at the 00:40:33 mark - after saying "Truth, Justice" the audio disappears for two seconds and then returns.
I also had a minor issue with the text at the bottom right corner, indicating the source of each scene. It felt like watching a workprint and not a proper edit.
Woof, that came out long. Again, generally I really liked this edit, and I know it is your vision (so I'm sure you considered the plot issues I brought up). So - Well done! If you can fix the technical issues, I would love to know.
Oh, and regarding the Epic Cut - very impressive and highly enjoyable. I had the same issues with the narrative (that Ending...), and one technical issue - at the 00:35:53 there was a very weird wipe-like transition when Clark kneels in the barn.
Cheers,
Bo
Regarding 2:15 - That is so odd. When I use VLC (3.0.12 Vetinari) it happens every time after the sentence "as your life will be seen through mine". The audio just drops completely, never to be see- heard again. Unless, of course, I restart it and skip that bit. However, when I use BSPlayer there is no issue at all. Any thoughts?I can find no obvious trigger to the issue at 2:15. I have played the file, and I can't replicate the error either.
At 40.38 after "truth and justice" the audio is continuous. I did remove "American way" and replaced it with the music, so the score runs continuously. I can find no audio drop. I had to remove that part of the line coz it was to nationalistic and "truth and justice" are universal desires and rights. It jarred on me way back in theatres, so I fixed it.
I played around with it...scoring does not lend itself to it..plus its a medium continuous shot and Lois's line comes straight after in the same shot. Removing the line and holding the shot would create a jump visually hence dropping in the close up to disguise the removal. The audio can work fine but Lois immediately begins to walk away too, so any other disguising would then mean cutting back and she would be in a different position. I also tried to just remove the line holding the shot, but again, Lois's head moves slightly and that also creates a visual jump. I can't think of a way to bring her reaction closer. The audio is not the issue...its the single shot and her moving that is. If anyone has a suggestion, I'm open to it, but the line goes...Regarding 2:15 - That is so odd. When I use VLC (3.0.12 Vetinari) it happens every time after the sentence "as your life will be seen through mine". The audio just drops completely, never to be see- heard again. Unless, of course, I restart it and skip that bit. However, when I use BSPlayer there is no issue at all. Any thoughts?
Regarding 40:38 - I agree that the audio is continuous, but the close-up on Supe's face creates the feeling that something is missing. I suggest trimming that close up and following "Truth and Justice" directly with Lois's response. If that is possible, I mean.