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The 50,000 Movie Challenge

Movieman53000 said:
I have #11940 for Don Ricardo returns is this the correct number it would be duplicate number
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According to the AFI site, and IMDB, it is. I can't find a streaming copy to verify myself.
 
Movieman53000 said:
I have #11940 for Don Ricardo returns is this the correct number it would be duplicate number
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#11940 is taken by the 10th chapter of the 1946 serial "Son of the Guardsman".

The number on the AFI might be wrong.
 
This is my have & missing count totals
 [font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]Sequence[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]Have[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]Needed[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]Double[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]TOTAL[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1-1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]636[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]364[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1001-2000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]728[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]272[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]2001-3000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]807[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]193[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]3001-4000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]774[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]226[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]4001-5000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]763[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]237[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]5001-6000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]785[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]215[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]6001-7000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]749[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]251[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]7001-8000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]773[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]227[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]8001-9000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]756[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]244[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]9001-10000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]730[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]270[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]10001-11000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]778[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]222[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]11001-12000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]757[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]243[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]9[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1009[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]12001-13000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]770[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]230[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]13001-14000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]733[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]267[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]14001-15000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]751[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]249[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]15001-16000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]804[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]196[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]16001-17000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]787[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]213[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]17001-18000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]749[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]251[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]18001-19000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]786[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]214[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]19001-20000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]785[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]215[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]20001-21000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]688[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]312[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]21001-22000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]818[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]182[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]22001-23000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]924[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]76[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]23001-24000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]903[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]97[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]24001-25000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]931[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]69[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]25001-26000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]916[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]84[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]26001-27000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]944[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]56[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]27001-28000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]924[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]76[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]28001-29000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]962[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]38[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]29001-30000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]924[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]76[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]30001-31000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]787[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]213[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]31001-32000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]957[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]43[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]32001-33000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]937[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]63[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]33001-34000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]956[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]44[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]34001-35000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]963[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]37[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]35001-36000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]930[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]70[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]36001-37000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]959[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]41[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]37001-38000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]965[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]35[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]38001-39000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]964[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]36[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]39001-40000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]958[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]42[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]40001-41000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]974[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]26[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]41001-42000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]981[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]19[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]42001-43000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]971[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]29[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]43001-44000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]977[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]23[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]44001-45000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]970[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]30[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]45001-46000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]956[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]44[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]46001-47000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]983[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]17[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]48001-48000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]975[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]25[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]48001-49000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]979[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]21[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]49001-50000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]980[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]20[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]50001-51000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]974[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]26[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]51001-52000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]981[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]19[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]52001-53000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]921[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]79[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]53001-54000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]36[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]964[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]0[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]1000[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]YEAR[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]GP[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]M[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]M/PG[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]TOTAL[/font] [font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]TOTAL[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]GRAND TOTAL[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]54009[/font] [font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]46169[/font][font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]7831[/font]    [font=Arial Narrow,sans-serif]6867[/font]
 
Does anyone know which one is correct & what titles belongs to other number if you have it?

ZOOM AND BORED (1957) (Short) #18346
ZOOM AND BORED (1957) (Short) #18956
 
Movieman53000 said:
Does anyone know which one is correct & what titles belongs to other number if you have it?

ZOOM AND BORED (1957) (Short) #18346
ZOOM AND BORED (1957) (Short) #18956
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Zoom and Bored, a 1957 animated short film, is indeed #18346. #18956 is assigned to a 1959 animated short film called Wild and Woolly Hare.
 
I found several animated short films with duplicate numbers, with missing numbers that are supposed to correct one of those duplicates listed below to fit the sequence. It could be unknown if one of those are correctly assigned. All of those are LT/MM short films. Unfortunately, there are no reliable source to correct those duplicates.

12271 I Taw a Putty Tat
12271 Mississippi Hare
Missing no.: 12270

14194 French Rarebit
14194 Leghorn Swoggled

16131 Little Boy Boo
16131 Satan's Waitin'
Missing no.: 16133

16890 By Word of Mouse
16890 Jumpin' Jupiter
Missing no.: 16891

16896 Guided Muscle
16896 Sandy Claws
Missing no.: 16899

17383 Heir-Conditioned
17383 Tweet and Sour
Missing no.: 17381 (possibly)

19531 Strangled Eggs
19531 Hopalong Casualty
Missing no.: 19532

19538 D' Fightin' Ones
19538 Birds of a Father
Missing no.: 19537

20226 Mad as a Mars Hare
20226 The Iceman Ducketh

20228 War and Pieces
20228 Now Hear This
 
I Have these numbers

FORT VENGEANCE #16133
Fort Vengeance # 16183

By Word of Mouse #16199
Million Pound Note #16891

WAR AND PIECES #22483
 
Movieman53000 said:
I Have these numbers

FORT VENGEANCE #16133
Fort Vengeance # 16183

By Word of Mouse #16199
Million Pound Note #16891

WAR AND PIECES #22483
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Fort Vengeance is indeed assigned #16183, while #16133 remained blank.

#16199 is taken by an animated short film called Lumber Jerks. Million Pound Note is a 1954 feature film originally made in UK and then later released in the US. Since that film has a US distributor, I'm going to check if there's a number in the credits or not.

The #22483 might refer to a 1970 Roland and Rattfink short film. What I refer to is a Looney Tunes short.

Edit: According to AFI, Million Pound Note is #16891, so I considered this.
 
CJ121997 said:
Movieman53000 said:
I Have these numbers

FORT VENGEANCE #16133
Fort Vengeance # 16183

By Word of Mouse #16199
Million Pound Note #16891

WAR AND PIECES #22483
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Fort Vengeance is indeed assigned #16183, while #16133 remained blank.

#16199 is taken by an animated short film called Lumber Jerks. Million Pound Note is a 1954 feature film originally made in UK and then later released in the US. Since that film has a US distributor, I'm going to check if there's a number in the credits or not.

The #22483 might refer to a 1970 Roland and Rattfink short film. What I refer to is a Looney Tunes short.

Edit: According to AFI, Million Pound Note is #16891, so I considered this.
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I have #16149 for Lumber Jerks ALSO
 
Here Are some dups that needs clearing up. 1 may be correct but other goes somewhere else.

#6934 We, the animals - Squeak!
#7236 We, the Animals - Squeak!

#21002 ZIP ZIP HOORAY!
#21062 ZIP ZIP HOORAY!
 
Movieman53000 said:
Does anyone know which one is correct & what titles belongs to other number if you have it?

ZOOM AND BORED (1957) (Short) #18346
ZOOM AND BORED (1957) (Short) #18956
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According to the Internet Animation Database page the correct number 18346.
 
the big cartoon database

Highway Runnery #21148 I have it listed as #21140
Catty cornered #21140 It has no number listed
 
Movieman53000 said:
Here Are some dups that needs clearing up. 1 may be correct but other goes somewhere else.

#6934 We, the animals - Squeak!
#7236 We, the Animals - Squeak!

#21002 ZIP ZIP HOORAY!
#21062 ZIP ZIP HOORAY!
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6934 Sky Raiders (Chapter 11)
7236 We, the Animals - Squeak!

21002 Zip Zip Hooray!
21062 Vicious Viking (Woody Woodpecker short)
 
Movieman53000 said:
the big cartoon database

Highway Runnery #21148 I have it listed as #21140
Catty cornered #21140 It has no number listed
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21140 Highway Runnery (1965 short)
21148 Catty Cornered (1966 short)

The first one you have it listed is correct.
 
@"Movieman53000" I'm looking at your list trying to make sense of something and I see that you've got the Merrie Melodies short "A Feud There Was" as #4579. I was wondering where you got that info because the only place I can find that has that number listed for it is the Big Cartoon Database. The Internet Animation Database, the Looney Tunes wiki, and the IMDB don't have a number listed for that short. Looking at the short itself the number is a little hard to make out but the 4 and 7 are clear. For #4579 I have "Dick Tracy Returns - Chapter  12: The Runaway Torpedo". There was no number listed with that short, however, it's the only number that would fit for that short given that #4578 is Chapter 10 and #4580 is Chapter 11.


dragon
 
Frantic Canadian said:
@"Movieman53000" I'm looking at your list trying to make sense of something and I see that you've got the Merrie Melodies short "A Feud There Was" as #4579. I was wondering where you got that info because the only place I can find that has that number listed for it is the Big Cartoon Database. The Internet Animation Database, the Looney Tunes wiki, and the IMDB don't have a number listed for that short. Looking at the short itself the number is a little hard to make out but the 4 and 7 are clear. For #4579 I have "Dick Tracy Returns - Chapter  12: The Runaway Torpedo". There was no number listed with that short, however, it's the only number that would fit for that short given that #4578 is Chapter 10 and #4580 is Chapter 11.


dragon
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I may have gotten that number from a list I found on the Internet. I never been to the Big Cartoon site until Yesterday. It may have been on the original list I started with known as the filmnummers list. There are a lot of dups which conflict with those serials that are listed. I have not had my list open in a couple of days so it is not sorted right in the higher Numbers. You add or may any changes that you want. If that Number is wrong you may delete it. I do have a missing count list. it is marked as "missing count". it will be the last sheet if you click on the arrow at the bottom.
 
Movieman53000 said:
I may have gotten that number from a list I found on the Internet. I never been to the Big Cartoon site until Yesterday. It may have been on the original list I started with known as the filmnummers list. There are a lot of dups which conflict with those serials that are listed. I have not had my list open in a couple of days so it is not sorted right in the higher Numbers. You add or may any changes that you want. If that Number is wrong you may delete it. I do have a missing count list. it is marked as "missing count". it will be the last sheet if you click on the arrow at the bottom.
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I don't want to touch anything until I can confirm an accurate number.

I've also confirmed that #4264 has two shorts with that number.

4264 A-Lad-In Bagdad (Merrie Melodies short)
4264 Have You Got Any Castles (Merrie Melodies short)

I've seen the title card for both of these and the number is clear on both.
 
I've confirmed that these shorts have duplicate numbers.

13012 Hatch Up Your Troubles (1949 short)
13012 The Egg and Jerry (1956 short)

13132 Feedin' the Kiddie (1957 short)
13132 The Little Orphan (1949 short)

13193 Wags to Riches (1949 short)
13193 Millionaire Droopy (1956 short)

13390 Tops with Pops (1957 short)
13390 Love That Pup (1949 short)

13701 Cat's Meow (1957 short)
13701 Ventriloquist Cat (1950 short)

13729 Rabbit Every Monday (short)
13729 The Fair Haired Hare (short)

All but two shorts are from MGM cartoons. These numbers from 1956 and 1957 are wrong, they should be at around 17000s and 18000s range. The last two shorts are from Looney Tunes, so they're unknown which one has a correct number.

It's possible to get the correct number through further research, it could be inquiry or something. These aforementioned shorts were released during PCA times, and all of PCA films but few are NR, so it's impossible to get the number (even the correction) for all NR ones in an easy way, unlike the rated ones that they can be found on FilmRatings.
 
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