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Robocop Cable TV Edit HD Restoration Project

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Guys! I have great news. I recently got my hands on a 90s ABC Airing of RoboCop with alternate footage. It's much higher quality than most versions out there. This will SUBSTANTIALLY help the project. Look:
(password: robo)
 

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^ Not too bad. Cropping out the fuzzy bits at the edge of frame (a nice sharp HD edge to a frame helps footage to look better than it is subconsciously IMO) plus a little upscaling etc and it should look okay.

Random Robocop thought... ever noticed that when Verhoeven says "Rob Bottin", with his accent it sounds like he is saying "RoboTeen". It makes me laugh anyway :D .
 

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Oh yeah definitely. Gonna rip it with a better capture card and definitely crop out the overscan. (I've been doing that for a lot of the footage anyways, you read my mind!) I was so excited to finally find this version I ripped it and uploaded some of the raw capture
 

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Unfortunately I was outbid in the last few mins. I hope whoever bought it scans it and uploads it somewhere. Oh well
 

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kchrules said:
Unfortunately I was outbid in the last few mins. I hope whoever bought it scans it and uploads it somewhere. Oh well

Why don't you reach out to the winner? I'd get a feel for what the user is going to do and then let him know of your project. Perhaps a collaboration... or any other ideas that might be mutually agreeable.
 

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heathen3017 said:
kchrules said:
Unfortunately I was outbid in the last few mins. I hope whoever bought it scans it and uploads it somewhere. Oh well

Why don't you reach out to the winner? I'd get a feel for what the user is going to do and then let him know of your project. Perhaps a collaboration... or any other ideas that might be mutually agreeable.

Unfortunately the winner is private/anonymous
 

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I've finished the first Audio Track. This is the original UK ITV version, it will be the main track because it has the best overall quality. Working on the second track, the ABC edit track now. I only have to plug in a handful of dubs like near the end, instead of "die, you bastard" Leon says "die, you monster!" on the ABC edit, as opposed to the obviously british "die, you blackguard!" Luckily, there is a lot of overlap in the dubs, many were used in both versions.

The problem is even though the VHS I got has high quality video footage, the audio still does not sound that great (I mean, it sounds good for an almost 30+ yrs old VHS, but not as great as other sources I have), I will do what I can to clean it up. There will also be a 3rd audio track which will be almost identical to the ITV version, but it is based off of the current TV edit, meaning all uses of "freakin" will be cut and there will not be music under Murphy's death, I'm already done with that. Only took a few tweaks.
 

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kchrules said:
the original UK ITV version... the obviously british "die, you blackguard!"

Brilliant :D . I'm sure I must have watched that version back in the day.
 

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Finished with the audio tracks. Now gonna buckle down and continue to finish the video. Cleaning up more alternate footage, correctly panning and scanning shots, and fixing some of the HUD shots.
 

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[quote="Motley']
Really anticipating this edit, kchrules! ^^
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Thank you! I've finished touching up and plugging in alternate footage and the audio is done. Just some minor tweaks left, should be submitting it before the month is over
 

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Thank you! I've finished touching up and plugging in alternate footage and the audio is done. Just some minor tweaks left, should be submitting it before the month is over

I look forward to it.
 

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Exporting the final render. Will be submitting either tomorrow or Saturday
 

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Update 1/29/18
Here is the info on the edit for those that are interested:

Sources used:
2014 R1 Uncut Blu Ray (base) 
2006 Recalled Sony Blu Ray - Theatrical Cut
1988 Full Screen Image Laserdisc - Theatrical Cut
1988 Orion VHS -Theatrical Cut
RoboCop Soundtrack - Music from the Motion Picture
ABC Network TV Broadcast from 1991
WGN America TV Broadcast from 2010
Comet TV Broadcast from 2017
THIS TV Broadcast from 2018
"ROBOCOP (1987) Alternate Scenes from TV version" - Youtube Video uploaded by YT user Orville Joder Jr
"Robocop 1991 ABC Sunday Night Movie Intro" - Youtube Video uploaded by YT user Sean Mc


Language cuts legend based on the 3 audio tracks
1 = ITV dub
2 = ABC dub (sourced from a 30+ year old VHS so audio quality isn’t as good as ITV)
3 is the same as ITV unless noted otherwise (basically the only difference is all uses of Freaking are deleted and there is no music under Murphy's death scene)

Words or phrases in [brackets] are censored.
If no number is by it, they use the same edit.
Asterisk means it's the same word(s) but each has a different take
"Deleted" means it's muted and/or taken out entirely

List of language edits in chronological order:
-Your client's a [scumbag]
1. Crum bag
2. Sleaze bag

-We should strike [fuck em]
Right?

-Come here when you're finished [fucking around]...
1. fooling around
2. playing around

-...light a fire under Jones' [ass]
1. deleted
2. Rear

-It's a better plan [fucking] Jones! 
Forget Jones*

-Their union's been [bitching]
Ditzing

-Someone want to call a [god damned] paramedic?
Deleted

-Oh [fuck] jones
Forget

-As soon as some poor [schmuck] volunteers.
Guy

-[Shit!] I don't believe it!
1. deleted
2. Oh no

-You burnt the [fucking] money
Freaking*
3. Deleted

-It's as good as marks you [asshole] you stupid stupid [asshole]
1. Dipstick, doofus
2. Dunce, moron

-Shut [the fuck] up and do it!
Shut your face up and do it*

-What the [fuck]
Hell

-[shit] he's on the side!
Deleted

-Ah [shit] Clarence my leg!
Deleted

-Your [ass] is mine
Tail

-I'll bet that really [pisses you off]
Ticks you off

-[shit] I'm out of ammo
Deleted

-Ah [shit]
Deleted

-Lose the arm! [Jesus, Morton]
Deleted

-Ow! God [damn it]!
Deleted

-You're gonna be a bad [mother fucker]
Mother Crusher

-Shut up [asshole]
1. Man
2. Deleted

-This is [bullshit]
Garbage*

-[What is this shit]
Deleted

-I [fucking] love that guy!
Really

-Look at that [fucking] gun!
1. deleted
2. Freaking

-[shit] this guy is really good
Deleted

-Gimme your money, all of it, and don't [fuck with me]
Mess with me

-Open the [god damned] safe
1. lousy
2. Stupid

-[shit] there's your [god damned] safe!
1. deleted
2. deleted, lousy safe

-You better open that [son of a bitch]
Damn safe*

-[Fuck me!]
Why me?

-[fuck me, fuck me, fuck me...]
1. deleted, (except for last one which is "why me")
2. Why me, fight me

-[shit] you better give up pal!
Deleted

-Don't [fuck with me]
Mess with me

-That goes really fast and gets really [shitty] gas mileage
Lousy

-Lieutenant don't [jerk me off], people [jerk me off], I kill em!
Mess with me*, mess with me (1st is different, second is the same)

-Kiss your mayors [ass] goodbye!
Butt

-I heard Jones was plenty [pissed]
P-ed

-The guy's a [pussy]
Pansy

-Iron butt, [boner], once I even called him: [asshole]
1. bonehead, airhead
2. Bumbler, "a lot worse"

-You've insulted this company with that [bastard] creation of yours
Deleted

-You just [fucked with] the wrong guy! You're out of your [fucking] mind
Finked on, freaking
3. finked on, deleted

-[god damned] rebels...
Damn

-Various instances of people saying "shit" when Robocop is having his nightmare and walks out are deleted in all 3

-Sorry Sarge, [fucked up], forget it, this guy's a serious [asshole]
Messed up, airhead

-Ow [shit!] Lets talk. Aaagh [son of a bitch]
1. deleted
2. My foot, I'll get you for this

-[bitches] leave
Ladies

-What the [fuck] are you doing?
Hell

-[God damn it]
Ah Damn it

-I don't give a [shit] what you want to pay
Damn

-Shove this factory so far up your stupid [wop ass] that you'll [shit] snow for a year! Frankie blow this [cock sucker]'s head off
Fat nose, blow snow, blood sucker

-Oh [fuck you]
1. Damn you
2. Yeah, for you

-Aaagh [shit]
1. deleted
2. Oof

-[fuck you]
Get lost

-What is [this shiiiiiii-t]
What is thiiiiiii-s

-[god damn it, god damn it!] Listen to me, listen to me you [fuck]!
Leave me alone, listen to me! Listen to me you fool!

-Don't you get it [you cock sucker!]
1. you blood sucker
2. Listen to me

-You listen to me you [asshole]
1. deleted
2. Animal

-He's a cop killer. *spit* [Shit]!
1. deleted
2. Geez

-Just give me my [fucking] phone call
1. friggin'
2. And 3: deleted

-[Jesus], you really screwed up
1. deleted
2. Geez

-We have orders to destroy it. [oh shit]
1. Deleted
2. That stinks!

-Your company built the [fucking] thing
Freaking

-I don't have time for [this bull shit]
1. This balogna
2. You big shots

-Nobody [popped my cherry]
Pushed me around

-"Woah a new toy can I play" has an alternate take on track 2

-Aw [shit] aw [fuck], nice car Joe! [fuck you]
1. deleted, deleted, forget you
2. Shoot, deleted, forget you

-Give it up [faggot], hey [butt hole] get your own
Maggot, bozo

-Cut the [horse shit]! Emil, get [your ass] in the van
Horseplay, deleted

-We'll get you [faggot] ha ha ha
Maggot

-That metallic [mutha]... zip it up!
2. sucka
3. Deleted

-Damn it, [shit]
Deleted

-Clarence saying shit Twice during the chase are deleted in all 3. 

-Die you [bastard]
1. blackgaurd
2. Monster

Violence Edits

-Kinney's death is censored. Violent shots are cut out and replaced with alternate TV footage of Kinney flying backwards with no blood.
-Bobby hitting the cop car's windshield is slowed down so you don't see the impact
-Guy with the hat in hideout is only shot once instead of twice.
-Murphy's death is shortened and censored significantly. Audio track 1 and 2 have music (the dream) under the scene. Track 3 does not. Murphy's hand being blown off is not shown, replaced with Alternate TV footage of his facial reaction. When the goons start shooting ("hey pretty boy over here!"), alternate TV and outtake footage is used to mask Murphy's blown off hand/stump. Many shots of him being shot as well as Joe saying "does it hurt" are cut entirely. When Clarence shoots Murphy in the head, alternate TV footage of Clarence shooting is used to mask the back of Murphy's head exploding.
-Shots of Murphy dead on the ground are zoomed so you don't see the bullet hole.
-Several shots in the hospital are cut or replaced with TV footage. These are so you can't see his bloody torso and back of his head.
-RoboCop's HUD doesn't target the rapist's crotch, and his bloody junk is not shown/shot is cut off early.
-When Emil's motorcycle hits the car, an alternate extended TV shot of him flying off the bike is inserted.
-Leon kicking Robocop in the crotch is zoomed so can't see the impact.
-When Clarence shoots Bob, all of the shots are censored. The first shot is shortened. All the rest use alternate TV footage.
-When Bob is crawling across the floor, the shot is panned so you don't see the blood all over the floor.
-In the factory, several shots of criminals being shot are removed, shortened, or replaced with alternate footage.
-Clarence doesn't spit blood at Robocop anymore, he just spits. Alternate tv footage was used to mask it.
-Clarence also doesn't spit blood on the police report either. The blood is Matted out.
-When Joe is shot, the first shot is shortened so you don't see the impact, alternate footage is used in place of the other 2 shots of him being shot.
-Emil crashing into the toxic waste and coming out deformed is significantly shortened. Cuts off as he gets up.
-Alternate take of "don't touch me man" from the TV version used so you don't see melted Emil's face.
-When Emil moves in front of the car, the shot of his front/face is cut.
-In one of the most infamous TV edits, Clarence doesn't run down Emil anymore, with alternate TV footage he swerves around Emil.
-Lewis is shot less times by Clarence.
-Clarence doesn't whack Robocop with the pole 3 times anymore, he just runs up and stabs him.
-Clarence's death sequence is censored. Alternate TV footage of a wide angle of the stabbing is used. When Robocop pulls the data spike out of Clarence's neck, blood no longer falls on Robocop and the sound effect is deleted. Alternate Tv footage of Clarence not bleeding out of his neck as he falls down is used for his death.
-All 3 shots of Jones getting shot now have no blood. 2 are taken from the TV version. One has the bullet holes manually matted out.

Sexual/Drug/other various edits
-The whole movie is panned and scanned to 4:3. This means some optical shots are either crunched, or sourced from the full Screen Laserdisc upscaled (I.e when Robo's HUD is framed for Widescreen using the whole frame)
-All nudity is obscured/cut. The frame is zoomed and panned to obscure Naked men in the police station. In one instance an optical bra is matted over a topless woman changing near the beginning, like in the TV edit. When the rapist is shot in the crotch, it cuts away so you don't see it. In the club scene, an alternate TV angle is used so you don't see a topless woman dancing.
-Every instance of snorting coke is cut, obscured, or flat out muted if there was no way to cover it.
-Sound of Joe pissing is taken out ("mind if I zip this up" scene). Footage of him pissing is cut and replaced with reaction shots of his face.
-Alternate angle of the robber firing his machine gun at RoboCop from the TV version is used to mask him clearly mouthing "fuck me, fuck me, etc"
-Alternate footage of people's reactions in the executive bathroom cover Dick Jones' feet in the stall. This also includes an alternate angle of Jones walking out of the stall.
-The beginning of the scene in Bob's house with the models is significantly shortened. There's no Coke snorting or fooling around. There's an alternate shot of the woman wearing gold saying "Bob?" then the door bell rings.

Alternate TV footage that went unused and why:
-A completely different take of the "we should strike" scene. The audio of "right?" comes from it, but visually the alternate shot has the topless woman's chest covered. It was unused because of the low video quality, out of sync dialogue, and the fact that a version with the matted optical bra is used more frequently now, and is in better quality.
-A wider shot of "lets face it he lost his teeth" and "I gotta go, I got a meeting" from the ABC broadcast. Higher quality close up shots are in THIS Tv's broadcast.
-A shot of Bob's front door, used to cover him snorting coke off of the girl's chest. Footage from the ABC version of the other girl is more rare and interesting than a static shot of the door (in my opinion)
-A wide shot of Bob getting shot in the leg, the second shot. The quality was very poor, and was so short, that I was able to re-create it with an existing shot in the movie.
-Censored version of Clarence running down Emil from the ITV broadcast. Basically just a reaction shot of Clarence in the car as he knocks into Emil. The shot of him driving around is much more infamous and popular (in my opinion)
-Clarence's death from the ITV version, he runs around in a circle holding his neck and then theres a shot of Robo trying to push the girders of of him. The ABC version I used is rarer.
-Clarence getting shot the second time. The quality of this clip was such bad quality and out of sync with the audio (just another angle of the first censored shot basically). So I decided to matte out the bullet holes myself.
 
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