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^^ why does this show make me think of @"Gatos"?
 
IRON FIST!!!! 

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7nfhrTlmIY[/video]
 
^ So... a rehash of Arrow season one starring yet another white dude rebel billionaire, diving deep into the fairy tale mumbo-jumbo that made the second half of Daredevil S2 such a garbage fire, with the same life-draining 13-episode length?

Hard pass for me, thanks. ;)
 
I'm gonna watch but I have my reservations after Luke Cage. I couldn't even finish that one. Also, they're already pushing the Defenders thing with this instead of letting it breathe and be it's own thing. Hopefully that's just in the marketing and not too much in the site show itself.

However, I'm really, really excited for Legion. Noah Hawley can do no wrong (seriously, even the book he wrote last year is freaking great).
 
With only a few days til Netflix's streaming launch of IRON FIST, the show has been getting universally negative reviews (the first 6 episodes were released for critics) from almost every site I have visited this past week or so....

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTmUmyMIU14[/video]

In retrospect, LUKE CAGE had glowing reviews before its release, and while it had incredible production values, I struggled to finish the series due to its sluggish pace.   So maybe I will like this????   :blush:
 
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So I have watched the first five episodes so far, and I really don't understand all the negative reviews?

It's not a bad show.  I was expecting some sort of a car wreck based on some of the reviews I read.  But it is a decent and enjoyable show.  It is better paced than Luke Cage or the second season of Daredevil.  And unlike Luke Cage, it is directly connected to The Hand subplot of both Daredevil and Jessica Jones, so it feels like it is part of a bigger story.

Finn Jones is likeable as Danny Rand, doing a good job balancing man/child innocence with old world wisdom.   I see none of the "whitewashing"  or "white savour" issues that some critics levelled at the show.

If the show has one key weakness it is Finn Jones' Kung Fu.  Iron Fist is suppose to me trained in super-bad ass-mystic-kung fu, but the fight sequences lack any real energy or wow factor, especially compared to similar shows like INTO THE BADLANDS or even ARROW.   This feels more like David Carradine style Kung Fu, except I find Carradine's Kung Fu more believable... LOL.    In fact, I find the character of Colleen Wing and her karate scenes way more interesting and believable.

Compared to the other three Netflix Defender shows, this one feels the most retro... it has distinct 80s vide in terms of plotting and characters.  Which is not necessarily a bad thing, but it certainly holds it back from feeling truly exciting and original.

Based on what I have seen so far, I would give the show a B-minus.   Still 8 more episodes to go and a lot could change. :p
 
I'm five in as well, and I'm having a good time.  Some of the dialogue is pretty wooden, and the acting isn't up to par with the other Marvel stuff.  But yeah, the biggest let down for me is the fight choreography.  The motions seem competent enough, but it's all just too slow.  There's too much choppy editing for the action scenes as well.  I would have thought that for a show called Iron Fist that the priority would have been in the production of its hand to hand combat, but I guess that just didn't pan out.  As it stands, Daredevil comes across as both a more agile and capable fighter than Danny.  All in all, it's a decently entertaining corner of the MCU thus far.
 
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Finished the series today.   I would give the final overall score a 7 out of 10.

As many have already noted, the kung fu sequences remain uneven throughout the entire run of the season.  But not just in terms of bad fight choreography, but it terms of the character's ability.  Danny is the Iron Fist, one of the best fighters in the world, but in some episodes he easily dispatches bad guys in a single punch or kick and then in the next, he can barely hold his own against inexperienced kung fu students.  Danny's yo-yo emotional state makes sense once you reach the last few episodes, the reveal feels too little and too late.

The Hand as villains were disappointing.   After the terrifying undead ninjas we saw in DD and JJ, here we get gun wielding soldiers and street kung fu kids?  

Harold Meechum was channelling crazy train, over the top almost camp villainy at times, that felt out of tone with the rest of the series.

I enjoyed the dynamic/chemistry between Danny and Colleen.

Ward Meechum I think stole the show and was the best developed and performed character.  Though Bakuto and Davos were equally charismatic.

As with LC and DD, the overall story was stretched out too thin and could have been only 8 to 10 instead of 13 episode.

So of the four Defender shows, I would rate them as follows...

1. Jessica Jones 10/10
2. DareDevil season one 9/10
3. DareDevil season two 8/10
4. Iron Fist and Luke Cage 7/10

Despite some of these less than stellar debuts, I hold out high hopes for the upcoming Defender series, as I think it could be a case where the individual parts could make a stronger, better whole.  :D  fingers crossed.

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But until then, I will content myself with popping a David Carradine dvd.
Now that's REAL kung fu!!!   :p
 
I've got three episodes left.  Still having a good time.  Regarding Danny's capabilities: I feel like they still haven't adequately explained when he can and can't use his powers.  I get that channeling his chi isn't easy, but sometimes it seems more difficult for him in otherwise comparable circumstances.
 
Just finished up the season.  The show improved dramatically in the second half, and continued a general positive track until the end.  The show was never as good as either Daredevil season, but its high points were roughly on par with Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, without the slow burn pacing the two tended to favor.  None of the villains were as enjoyable as the likes of Kingpin or Killgrave, but they were sufficiently menacing for what they set out to do.  

Madame Gao was several notches higher than Harold or Bokudo, of course.  She's a lot of fun.  I hope we get more time with her in subsequent shows/seasons.

The writing and acting probably improved the most as the season progressed.  The cast got more comfortable with their characters and each other.  The fights got a bit better as they went.  I'm a huge kung fu movie fan, so I hold choreography to a pretty high standard.  And while we got some decent matchups

Drunken boxing!  I was overjoyed when that happened!


, things never reached the level of your average Daredevil fight.  I think Agents of Shield has done better close quarters fighting scenes.  This is the biggest area they can improve upon, assuming we get a second season.  I could see Marvel taking a Hulk style approach and just have Danny show up in other peoples' series going forward, but I really think there's enough here to warrant revisiting in a year or two.
 
Trailers for the 2017/18 season are already rolling out....

Seth MacFarlane is doing Star Trek...sort of... lol

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Watched The Orville last night....

It was amusing... not Galaxy Quest clever/funny or Family Guy raunchy/satire... somewhere in between the the two.  If anything, it felt too safe, too comfortable, too familiar.  It's more old skool dramedy than full-on comedy or parody.

This is pretty much Star Trek in everything but name.  From the primary colour uniforms, the bridge design, good ships are white and the bad guy ships are greenish, etc.  The makers clearly have a great love for Star Trek as the series is not mean spirited but instead a gentle good hearted wink, nod and nudge at the sillier aspects of the various incarnations.  It copies the TNG formula very closely (too closely maybe???)  right down to the scoring and old style cliffhanger commercial breaks.  In fact, the whole time I was watching, I kept thinking this looks and feels like a 90s syndicated adventure show.  It looks both slick and cheap at the same time lol.

The pilot is all intro and set up,  so now that it is out of the way, I am very curious how the show evolves.  
I would give the pilot a 7 out of 10.


http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfqa9rsIa9A[/video]

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I know the critics have been very critical of the show as was a friend of mine who saw it. I think the problem is marketing: they made it look like a comedy when it really isn't one. It's a drama with comedic elements, albeit mostly bad comedic elements. Most of the jokes are pretty flat, or safe as you said. Because I went in knowing it wasn't a comedy I was more satisfied with it.

Is it a great show? No. Is it a terrible show? No. It's mediocre at best but has the potential to be really good if they make some changes.
 
I only learned yesterday the show is an hourly one - I'd assumed it was a half-hour. That strikes me as unwise...
 
bionicbob said:
Watched The Orville last night....

It was amusing... not Galaxy Quest clever/funny or Family Guy raunchy/satire... somewhere in between the the two.  If anything, it felt too safe, too comfortable, too familiar.  It's more old skool dramedy than full-on comedy or parody.

This is pretty much Star Trek in everything but name.  From the primary colour uniforms, the bridge design, good ships are white and the bad guy ships are greenish, etc.  The makers clearly have a great love for Star Trek as the series is not mean spirited but instead a gentle good hearted wink, nod and nudge at the sillier aspects of the various incarnations.  It copies the TNG formula very closely (too closely maybe???)  right down to the scoring and old style cliffhanger commercial breaks.  In fact, the whole time I was watching, I kept thinking this looks and feels like a 90s syndicated adventure show.  It looks both slick and cheap at the same time lol.

The pilot is all intro and set up,  so now that it is out of the way, I am very curious how the show evolves.  
I would give the pilot a 7 out of 10.


http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfqa9rsIa9A[/video]

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC-Toz6zw48[/video]
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im actually enjoying this show but the constant bickering of the captain and his ex are starting to grind on my nerves.and is there any need for the helmsman i mean he just repeats everything he is told to do.cut out the martital crap and this show has potential.
 

full trailer just dropped for punisher netflix series and as long as they dont tone it down,it looks like its going to be the best of the lot
 
THE GIFTED on FOX

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIOoTfG3YQg[/video]

A solid premiere episode!   From the producers of the X-Men movies, the pilot was directed by Bryan Singer, it follows the Strucker family when they have to go on the run after discovering the two children are mutants.

Set in a world where the X-Men and Brotherhood are missing, the Struckers turn to the Mutant Underground for help, which is populated by many X-Men characters such as Polaris, Warpath (or is it Thunderbird?) and Blink.

There is even a Stan Lee cameo!

The cast is strong.  I will watch Amy Acker in anything. LOVE.  lol.

A really entertaining opening and I look forward to seeing what shape the series will take.
 
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