Moe_Syzlak
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TM2YC said:This is a great fan trailer for the Special Editions:
The ending makes me laugh .
It needs the Vader “noooooo!!!” at the very end.
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TM2YC said:This is a great fan trailer for the Special Editions:
The ending makes me laugh .
Canon Editor said:I loved Richard E. Grant's reaction. It may be his acting (I don't believe so), but I can feel the emotion in his breaking voice.
Moe_Syzlak said:My kids (seven years old) have decided they want to see Episode 9 in the theatre. My only requirement for them was that they watch episodes 7 and 8 so I wouldn’t be answering questions all through the movie. So tonight was Last Jedi time.
I played them my own edit. Now, if you know me you know I’m not an editor. I took a few edits and stitched them together and then made a few slight trims of my own. Some of the edits I used never got Academy approval here. But basically this was an edit that focuses almost exclusively on the Rey/Ben/Luke/Snoke storylines. Gone are the slow speed chase, the Leia spacewalk, the Canto Bight subplot, and a lot of humor I felt didn’t work.
First, my kids loved it. And, to be honest, so did I. I had watched any version in well over a year and I really enjoyed it, partly because my kids were so into it. They were cheering, cuddling up to me when scared, and yelling at the screen. It was great. My wife, who is not a Star Wars fan and who has only seen the movie in the theater with me, said, “that was much better than I remembered.”
Now, the seven year olds didn’t notice any problems, but I did. With the B plot all but eliminated, Finn, Poe, and Leia don’t do much and Rose and Holdo are unnamed supporting characters. That’s fine for Rose except she’ll undoubtedly have a large role in the next movie. For Holdo, since she pilots the light speed assault it kind of comes of out of nowhere. Since we don’t see the bridge assault that sends Leia on her spacewalk, we also don’t see Ackbar’s fate. If someone could create a plausible version of Ackbar subbing for Holdo, I think it could really work. To be clear, I don’t hate Holdo but I don’t think the B storyline is necessary nor very well executed. So that character would just be a casualty of tightening up the film.
Overall, I think the movie’s themes and ideas are excellent. Luke is brave and strong by doing what he couldn’t in Empire. He knows that the Jedi must die and that dogma is not what the Force is about. I hope the new movie doesn’t try to unwrite that.
DigModiFicaTion said:We've done the following with the kids: 4, 5, 6, 1, some of 7. In 4 I just skipped a few scenes, 5 I made the Youngling edition and 6 I made another Youngling edition, though I don't think people would be interested in it as it changes the Emperor’s finality to not engage at all with Luke and just return to his chair when Luke says he is a Jedi and the Emperor has failed (though that is intriguing now with the final installment implications ). I've shown scenes wit bb8, the falcon chase and a few snippets of the lightsaber battle.
My kiddos love the OT, especially the Hoth battle. They have PT toys that they play with, but don't really understand who the characters are. They also love bb8 and Poe. Oh and pod racing is huge. We've played that game and watched the pod race a bunch.
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Moe_Syzlak said:We’re now 40 hours away from the RoS matinee and my kids are beyond stoked. They have now watched the OT and the ST. They started with TFA and then TLJ and went back to the OT. They liked it all but TFA is their favorite and they rewatched that last night. Right now they are finishing up TLJ again. They’ve watched my own hybrid of various fan edits for the ST. Seeing the love they have these movies without questioning some spurious logic (the same as I did not questioning why the Empire would land cumbersome walkers on Hoth rather than send in fighters or why the Rebels wouldn’t target said walkers from the side or behind where they have no guns) really highlights the blinders so many fans have on. Funny thing is, I tried to show my kids the prequels but they hated it and were totally bored. We didn’t make it halfway through the first one.
Moe_Syzlak said:Alright, I watched it. So basically the case he's making is that Anakin's turn was because of the Jedi and the hypocrisy of the Jedi code rather than to save Padme. First, if that's the case, he's just made an argument that Lucas is (not so secretly) a terrible storyteller. Because that doesn't come through at all. But even if it did, it's basically the equivalent of saying because some of the allied power leaders were a bit hypocritical, I'm going to side with the genocidal Nazis. And for what reason? Spite? If that's the intent is the PT is actually secretly much MUCH worse. (IMO)
TVs Frink said:I think EP III Anakin might be the worst of the (first) three.
Oh hey, Palpatine is a Sith.
I know, I'll kill Mace.
Oh wait, what have I done?!?!?
Mr. Sith lied to me about being able to save Padme?
Ah well, I'm gonna kill a bunch of kids now too.
Zamros said:Anakin's Character Progression:
Super Talented Space Jesus that knows only of good and kindness -> Angsty Teenager that makes women so uncomfortable they fall in love with him -> Jedi Knight and General of a Clone Batallion, actual adult and likeable human being -> Genocidial Child-killing Space Nazi
with zero actual development in between. That's not an arc. That's a side on view of the Himalayas.
ThrowgnCpr said:What I get from prequel apologists and Masirimso17's defense is that they love the idea of Anakin's fall, and try to use that to defend these movies, but completely ignore the execution of that idea in the films and all of the other inconsistencies. Anakin's character, and his fall, is one of the most poorly handled cinematic experiences I've ever seen. More character depth has been demonstrated in the Sharknado saga... I for real enjoyed Sharknado more than Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith combined.
I really don't understand why people love ROTS so much. The "bruh, it's so dark" defense is nonsense. ROTS is pretty much on par with AOTC in its shittiness. If you can get past the annoying kid (yeah, kids are annoying. Have you met any?) and jar-jar nonsense of TPM, it's easy to see that it's the least offensive of the PT. By a longshot. Trying to impose political and moral depth on these movies is an exercise in frustration.
The prequels keep getting edited because people LOVE Star Wars and keep trying to find something, anything in these movies that can bring them into line with that universe. It ain't gonna happen.
Moe_Syzlak said:Anakin's turn to the dark side should have been set up from his actions in episode 1. Instead he's a wholesome, innocent child.
It certainly would've been better had Anakin been more like the kid in Looper. It also would've more clearly underlined QGJ's recklessness. I always thought Anakin should've witnessed QGJ's death as well. One more recurring loss of those he cares about.