TVs Frink said:
baileym43 said:
I just caught up to this and it baffles me.
I understand this thread is subjective, and I get why people like Spaceballs, but I think this is the first time I've every heard someone say it was perfect.
well that's just, like, your opinion man.
but seriously...
i don't think Terminator 2 or Raiders fit. that's just me.
comedies are super subjective, though. Spaceballs fits on my list maybe because i loved it so much growing up.
mostly for me, i think a good comedy has to fit a short few things.
1) jokes & gags, not references or pop culture colloquialisms.
Redletter Media touches on this quite a bit as far as references but i think it extents to popular catchphrases that can quickly become dated. ("NOT", "as if", "don't go there", "not so much", "that just happened", and "mind blown".) (Cluless comes to mind.)
this is tough to do for a parody movie like both Airplane and Spaceballs.
Airplane pulls it off better, obviously given present company statements. i can totally concede Spaceballs because it does heavily reference Star Wars for it's laughs. but if you haven't seen Star Wars, most of it though could just be taken as silly stuff the characters are doing/saying. (i admit i've never seen Airport so i can't really say but i can follow and laugh at everything in Airplane.)
2) the jokes & gags should move the plot or at least build on each other.
otherwise it's a series of sketches during the story.
Dumb & Dumber does this really well i think.
3) the second act needs to keep the jokes going.
a lot of times you'll be watching a comedy and it's pretty funny then it all stops and the characters start doing stuff. none of it is funny but the story is still going forward. then right about the middle of act three, the story reaches where it was going it becomes funny again.
Dodgeball comes to mind, i guess, so does Billy Madison. it's tough because these are usually pretty unmemorable comedies to begin with.
does anyone else have a rule that they think makes a comedy good ? or for the sake of this thread, a perfect comedy ?