CLASSIC MOVIES THAT HAVE MATERIAL MISSING

[Wraith]

YO...

So, Last night I watched In The Heat of the Night (again).

No need to dwell on the ground breaking nature of this 5 oscar winner (7 nominations)...BUT, what did become clear to me on this viewing was the obvious excision of materal in what are sme hand fisted cuts in 4 places....

There are 4 notable jumps in the narrative with no intervening exposition. The natue of what follows in each case makes it obvious that something hit the cutting room floor.


Jump1 : After Virgil (Mr. Tibbs) is set upon in the train shed, there is a hard cut to him standing at night in fron t of a polict vehicle...Why, how did he get there?
Jump 2: After heslaps Elcor, we seem to have progressed further with an indication of conversations we did not see
Jump 3: Suddenly Virgil and the sheriff are sharing a meal, and the dialogue and demeanor indicate a longer discussion that we were not privvy to. The Sherriff tells him "as you know not a lot of people have been in here"...but we never heard that or why, nor did we see the invitation take place...
Jump 4: The last utterance to camer by the sheriff in his office you can see that more dialogue was to follow but there is a hard cut to the station.

There are also a few jumps in logic and plot.

All this says to me that the moview was maybe 15/20 mins longer and got trimmed in order to preserve the first half, which is flawless.

Alas, the protagonists are no longer with us to ask the questions, but it would be amazing if the studio could reasech it's records and unearth the material (iuf vinegar syndrome has not eaten it away).

A search for a shooting script is useless, it does not exist and the scripts that are out there are compiled from the film.

So my contention is that this got a Semi-Ambersons treatment...

Any Views?

Anyone else seen a classic that CLEARLY (not wishingly) has material excised?

Obviously, we would all love to see the 20 mins removed from 2001: A Space Odysey (very lucky to have seen it in the theatre in full way back when)....

Oscar [Winner]​

Best Picture

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Walter Mirisch

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Oscar [Winner]​

Best Actor in a Leading Role

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Rod Steiger

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Oscar [Winner]​

Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material from Another Medium

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Stirling Silliphant

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Oscar [Winner]​

Best Sound

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Samuel Goldwyn Sound Department

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Oscar [Winner]​

Best Film Editing

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Hal Ashby

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Oscar [Nominee]​

Best Director

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Norman Jewison

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Oscar [Nominee]​

Best Effects, Sound Effects

 

[Darth Kermit]

I’m just here to say that I like Norman Jewison. Fiddler on the Roof is one of my favorite pictures ever, and certainly one of my favorite musicals as well.

 

[Wraith]

I’m just here to say that I like Norman Jewison. Fiddler on the Roof is one of my favorite pictures ever, and certainly one of my favorite musicals as well.

won't Argue with that... "TRADITIONNNNN!!

 

[Dwight Fry]

A dead giveaway of material missing from classic films is when a scene change is a straight cut, instead of a dissolve. Scrooge (1951) has at least one of those: after the Tiny Tim scene in front of the toy store, we cut back to Scrooge at his office. Every other scene transition in the film is a dissolve.