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Transformers: Reformatted by Kevinicus

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what kind of fanedit : TF
original film name: Transformers
new film name : Transformers: Reformatted
film studio name : Paramount/Dreamworks
edit crew name : Kevinicus
Date Original Film Was Released : 7/2/07
Date Edit Was Released : 10/15/09
Original Runtime : 143 minutes
New Runtime : 122 minutes
Amount of time Cut/Added : 20-21 minutes
Cuts removed/added/extended :

Opening/Base Attack Scene:
*Trimmed conversation on helicopter
*Removed conversation between Lennox and his wife
*Removed threat to kill Blackout's crew if they didn't step out and his utterance of "My God"
*Trimmed Epps looking up at Blackout some
*Rearranged footage so that Blackout is shot with grenade PRIOR to Epps escaping.
*Trimmed Blackout turning arround some before ejecting Scorponok

School Scene:
*Removed intro by teacher & Sam emptying his bag
*Removed spitball bit
*Removed lines during flashback, "The ice is freezing faster than it's metling," and, "Don't worry lads, we'll get there."
*Removed "Sexton" line and class' reaction
*Removed shot of Sam's Dad in his car

Dealership Scene:
*Removed clown's line about his makeup melting
*Removed line from Bolivia wanting to show Sam his favorite car away from BB

Pentagon Scene:
*Removed SecDef looking at those in attendance and all comments made there

Witwicky House:
*Removed Sam going to his room, checking the mirror, ebay, etc.
*Removed bit about Mojo and his bling.

Desert Scene:
*Completely removed scene with Lennox and company talking about what happened, the binoculars and Skorponok spying.

Park Scene & Drive Home:
*Removed a few of Brent's lines to his friends and his worrying about his wheels being grinded.
*Removed 2nd half of Sam and Mikaela's talk in the car where she comes off as a total ditz not knowing who he is.

Analyst Scene:
*Completely remove scene of analysts theorizing about Iran and China.

Air Force One Scene:
*Cut President's Ding Dong lines.
*Remove a lot of analysts lines (i.e. "Are you running a diagnostic?" "Should I be?", etc. Only what was needed remains)
*Remove several repetetive lines from military personal after signal is detected.
*Trim Frenzy's escape to the car

Bumblebee signal scene:
*Cut Sam's call to police and his talk about the neighborhood watch
*Cut Bumblebee driving circles around Sam and Sam throwing his keys

Pentagon Scene:
*Completely cut scene where Maggie talks about DNA based computers etc. with SecDef and military

Desert Attack:
*Completely removed Indian telemarketer and credit card gag.
*Removed Epps lines "Man, If you could see this ****." and "Bring It"
*Removed "Bring the Rain" line.
*Rearranged and trimmed much of the footage so that the action flows better.

Maggie Stealing Signal/Glenn Scene:
*Cut other analyts lines.
*Trimmed Maggie removing memory card
*Cut Maggie getting out of 2nd taxi
*Cut Glenn playing games with his cousin
*Cut Maggie asking if Glenn wants to see something classified and Glenn wanting to "work his magic"
*Cut Glenn's grandmother's interruption.

Bumblebee Chases Sam/Barricade Scene:
*Trim footage of news
*Cut out audio of Sam saying "Good Morning Mojo," and "It's too early.." to allow for it to be later in the day.
*Trim some frames from Sam flipping on his bike.
*Cut Sam telling Barricade that he's had the worst day - removes uneccessary delay by Barricade
*Trim Sam's delay in running away
*Cut Sam's line about dreaming
*Cut line in car about ditching the Monster - Sam hits the steering wheel and the car starts (Note: Unfortunately I wasn't able to fix the continuity error with the tire spinning, but that's is Bay's error, not mine.)
*Mirrored the scene of Bumblebee flipping Barricade into a building and them fighting on the ground to make the action flow in the same direction (pretty amateur mistake by Bay & co. here). Later shot of Barricade is mirrored as well.
*Trimmed some frames after Sam kicks Frenzy's head.

Autobot Arrival:
*Removed girl's tooth fairy line.
*Removed Jazz's first line, "What's crackin' little bitches?"
*Removed Sam's echo of Prime's "ebay."
*Removed line during flashback sequence, "The ice is cracking." (DUH!!)

Interrogation Room:
*Cut entire scene with Donuts and Glenn freaking out.

Military Airplane:
*Cut a few lines at beginning of discussion of Skorponok

Sam's House:
*Cut first news report Sam's parents are watching
*Cut entire backyard scene (Sam's talk with his dad, "my bad," and the bit with Mojo.)
*Cut Mikaela's efforts to help Sam search his room.
*Cut S7 escorting everyone to the vehicles

Sector 7 vehicle sequence:
*Cut Sam's martians line
*Cut Mikeala going on about Sam never sacraficing anything in his perfect little life.
*Trimmed the chase of Optimus to remove continuity error of Prime's footprints magically vanishing.

Pentagon:
*Cut conference call and comment about the defining the Presidency.

Hoover Dam/Sectory 7:
*Cut most of Frenzy's fall. Spliced a small piece of footage in during Prime's speech at the Observatory.
*Cut SecDef talking to Lennox
*Cut SecDef having a hissy fit about the military not knowing about Sectory 7 etc.
*Cut shot of Barricade after Starscream calls the Decepticons to mobilize
*Cut Maggie asking what kind of energy the cube had
*Cut Wolvering/Freddy Joke and Simmons asking for a phone, etc.
*Cut Maggie correcting Simmons about Finland and the SecDef's comments
*Cut some of Maggie's reactions to cellphone bot

Attack on S7:
*Cut shot of Barricade with other Decepticons
*Cut one shot of Frenzy messing with computers
*Cut SecDef line about the Rangers not losing
*Cut Sam asking how BB is doing (good call Reave)
*Cut Lennox reference to "Mission City" - This fixes the error with it being called LA in the sequel
*Cut shot of Bumblebee and others leaving dam area, Sam asking how the cube is in the backseat and some guys spraying Megs.

Final Battles:
*Cut some of Frenzy fight and the Airforce receiving the message from Glenn
*Cut more shots of Barricade
*Rearrange footage of Optimus and Bonecrusher transformations
*Cut out boy saying, "Cool Mom!"
*Cut F22's mobilizing and Glenn saying that they're being sent to the city.
*Cut wide shot of city
*Cut Lennox/Epps argument about airstrike, "That's Alien!"
*Cut and rearranged scene of robots created by the Allspark so that it's only Dewbot that's created, no XBOX or SUV.
*Cut shot of Mikeala driving out of alley and "I'll drive, you shoot" line.

Your intention for this fanedit: My intention was to cut out as much material from the film that I thought didn't work or detracted from the important aspects. I also wanted to remove what I considered were some loose ends and/or plot holes within the movie. I did my best to make sure that every plot point that was needed for the story remained intact.

Your way to achieve your intention: Be very strict about what is needed and what worked (IMO). If something sucked, but is needed, it stayed.

Hardware and software information : New ASUS quad-core computer with LG blu-ray Drive. NeroVision 4 with blu-ray plug-in was used for the editing. Retail Blu-ray was used for the source which was transferred to my computer using DVDFab 6.

Time needed for the edition: Approximately Two Months

persons involved: Myself

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Hmmm, maybe I should have asked for my screen name on the forums to be Kevinicus as well to prevent confusion.
 

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You can ask boon to change your name. I used to be blick57. Ugh.
 

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Bad luck releasing a transformers edit at basically the same time as Uncanny Antman and JasonN. My first thought was "well, who's going to want to see Transformers enough times to review that firstling?"

But... I guess I'll do it. I'm a decent enough candidate, I never saw the movie more than once when it was first released. Plus, I didn't like it very much, even going so far as to fast forward over some parts.

Interesting to see if this can be improved for me. Of course I won't let my problems with the original influence whether I approve it or not.

Hopefully I can watch it and do a writeup by tomorrow night.
 

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CasmirRadon said:
Bad luck releasing a transformers edit at basically the same time as Uncanny Antman and JasonN. My first thought was "well, who's going to want to see Transformers enough times to review that firstling?"

But... I guess I'll do it. I'm a decent enough candidate, I never saw the movie more than once when it was first released. Plus, I didn't like it very much, even going so far as to fast forward over some parts.

Interesting to see if this can be improved for me. Of course I won't let my problems with the original influence whether I approve it or not.

Hopefully I can watch it and do a writeup by tomorrow night.

Yeah, originally I didn't even think about releasing it, it was basically for me since I knew I'd have to watch it about 300 times in my lifetime since my wife is a huge fan of TFs. Then reave's was the only one out there for so long. Mine has been pretty much done for nearly a month, but I've just not been very quick about getting it out there.

I have skimmed through UA and JasonN's edits and they certainly made some different choices. There were a couple of things UA did that I really liked and feel a little stupid for not thinking of myself, especially bits that I trimmed in the same area, but for whatever reason didn't make it even tighter. I may incorporate those things into my version for me at home, and they might make it into my HD version if I ever get it uploaded. I also found JasonN's usage of Soundwave to be an interesting idea, even if I'm not sure it works completely.
 

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I can't get the DVD files I downloaded last night to play.

Says they are missing the "video_ts.IFO" file.

Any help?
 

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CasmirRadon said:
I can't get the DVD files I downloaded last night to play.

Says they are missing the "video_ts.IFO" file.

Any help?


Let me check. Hmm, yep not sure how those got missed.

Change the extension on the .BUP files to .IFO and it should work. I'll change it on the download site.
 

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it's true, there is no ifo file, which is necessary to play a DVD.
 

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ChldsPlay said:
Change the extension on the .BUP files to .IFO and it should work. I'll change it on the download site.

[strikeout:3e21qogg]Doesn't work for me?[/strikeout:3e21qogg]

That works, thank you.
 

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CasmirRadon said:
ChldsPlay said:
Change the extension on the .BUP files to .IFO and it should work. I'll change it on the download site.

[strikeout:3b1ush6v]Doesn't work for me?[/strikeout:3b1ush6v]

That works, thank you.


Cool. Hope you enjoy.
 

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ok, I copied and renamed the BUP to IFO and added it to the dlc file. If it works like this all should be fine now.
 

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Is there anywhere/anyone to go to for assistance in coming up with some cover art, etc?
 

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OK, my first review of a firstling, so lets do this one by the books. To give you an idea of where I'm coming from, I have only seen Transformers once, but hated it, and in fact when watching the original I started fast forwarding over some scenes (especially the big city battle). I haven't seen any of the other fanedits of Transformers either.

plot
It's transformers... not really much of a plot, and what's there is really fluffy Michael Bay stuff. But then again, it wasn't based off a classic novel. Kevinicus says he was meticulous about preserving a coherent plot during his editing, and I can attest to that. As an added bonus, thanks to some cuts such as the severely trimmed down analysts scenes, it all felt even more believable and coherent to me than the original.
5 stars

image quality
Great image quality.
10 stars

audio quality
Great audio quality.
10 stars

difference to the original
Editing was fantastic. This is what people are talking about when they say seamless. No hard or noticible cuts of picture or audio. Movie had original title sequence and credits. Because it's been a while since I saw the original, and wanted to get a sense of what was being changed as I watched it, I read the edit list as I went along. I agree with all the cuts that were made, and think they all went towards making a better experience. The only continuity "error" that was created, was when Sam is leaving a message on his phone after Bumblebee drives to the junkyard, he says "Mojo I love you" which is a little weird since the earlier scene of Mojo is cut, but it is quickly forgotten (and not strictly an error, just weird for a movie). Now, of course it is invariable that this edit will be compared to the ones by Reave, UA, and JasonN. I haven't seen these, but I've looked over there edit notes, and they all have good ideas. I would have liked to have seen more cuts made in this edit... but as I've said, I am not a fan of the original material. If you want more cuts, check out another edit, but make no mistake, Kevinicus may be a new editor to fanedit.org, but this is a very polished movie.
7 stars

overall presentation
DVD has still menus with music that look nice enough, and scene selection with still thumbnails. It looks nice and gets the job done. Lots of people love motion menus I know, but usually (90% of the time) I find them distracting, annoying, and contrary to ease of use. No cover art yet, hopefully someone will volunteer to make some soon, as this edit deserves to be featured on the front page alongside UA and JasonN. As a said before, the movie featured no custom titles or credits.
5 stars

entertainment
Surprisingly enough, I was much more entertained than I expected. I was mostly going to just suck it up and review this because I wasn't sure anyone else would want to take a chance on a newbie Transformers editor, when they have so many other Transformers choices. With 20 minutes of crap cut out of the movie, and a couple re-arranged scenes, what remains really did seem better than it did before. Of course it's still Transformers, so there was lots of silly stuff, and the ending battle still bored me almost to sleep.
6 stars

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CasmirRadon said:
The only continuity "error" that was created, was when Sam is leaving a message on his phone after Bumblebee drives to the junkyard, he says "Mojo I love you" which is a little weird since the earlier scene of Mojo is cut, but it is quickly forgotten (and not strictly an error, just weird for a movie).


Hmm, I completely missed that. I may have to take a look at that. I had considered cutting part or all of that phone call at one point.

and...

I would have liked to have seen more cuts made in this edit...

Believe me there was plenty more I would have liked to have cut out as well.
 

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Kevinicus, as you used a blu-ray source, were you planning on an mkv/AVCHD release?
 

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Captain Khajiit said:
Kevinicus, as you used a blu-ray source, were you planning on an mkv/AVCHD release?

I'm planning some sort of High Definition release, I just haven't decided on a format yet (blu-ray, avchd, etc.) I made an avchd on my computer but wasn't thrilled with the quality (I made it too small) though it was still better than the DVD I think.
 

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Congratulations!

And getting 10/10 for audio and video is really great for a firstling! This definetly made the list of edits I am considering watching.
 

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ChldsPlay said:
Captain Khajiit said:
Kevinicus, as you used a blu-ray source, were you planning on an mkv/AVCHD release?

I'm planning some sort of High Definition release, I just haven't decided on a format yet (blu-ray, avchd, etc.) I made an avchd on my computer but wasn't thrilled with the quality (I made it too small) though it was still better than the DVD I think.

Was it a DVD5 size or a DVD9? There's a big difference, in my opinion, between the two when it comes to AVCHDs. DVD5 size is better than an upscaled DVD but not by a great amount, whereas a DVD9 can look really good.
 

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Captain Khajiit said:
ChldsPlay said:
Captain Khajiit said:
Kevinicus, as you used a blu-ray source, were you planning on an mkv/AVCHD release?

I'm planning some sort of High Definition release, I just haven't decided on a format yet (blu-ray, avchd, etc.) I made an avchd on my computer but wasn't thrilled with the quality (I made it too small) though it was still better than the DVD I think.

Was it a DVD5 size or a DVD9? There's a big difference, in my opinion, between the two when it comes to AVCHDs. DVD5 size is better than an upscaled DVD but not by a great amount, whereas a DVD9 can look really good.[/quote:1sijkd2r]


Was just a 5. Wasn't expecting much, but it was the first I tried.
 
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