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The Terminator [raymix] Duology (2 films + soundtrack) V 1.1

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Main Project Intentions & Info:
My goal was to create alternate versions of the first two Terminator films that don't explain the plot & character motivations upfront, but instead let the story unfold naturally as the films progress. This adds mystery & creates surprises for an un-spoiled first-time viewer... If there even is such a thing.
I know we all know the basic story, but when watching these edits, I hope you can try to see the films as if you're watching for the first time.
Opening credits & titles are removed & a new "A James Cameron Film" credit has been added to the beginning of each film.
New title cards replace the original title & opening credits. Both films end with a short post-credits scene/shot.

I've made extensive alterations to each film, manufacturing & programing my ideal versions.
Check the full changelist for each film below.
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NEW!- Introducing Version 1.1:
This is an update for both films, the soundtrack & the artwork.
This thread has been updated with all the current info, but for a layout of the 1.1 updates, changes & tech specs, check out this post.
The main draw is Topaz AI upscaling for the deleted scenes from THE TERMINATOR, but there are several other updates & upgrades.

I really hope that everyone who has enjoyed my work will update.
To check your version, look for a V 1.1 during my opening production logo.
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Sources Used:
-The Terminator (MGM bluray, 2018)
-Terminator 2: Judgement Day- Extended Edition (Lionsgate bluray, 2015)
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Release Info:
I'm only using the first two films in the Terminator series. They create a perfect two part story.
I don't care at all about the rest of the series, so don't expect a [raymix] of any of those.

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The Changes:
A Few Overall Changes:
No explanatory text or narration- We're dropped in blind & the stories tell themselves.
No dates mentioned- This keeps the future war a possible threat here in our present time.
No Terminator POV- It's spoilery for my project intentions & the tech looks too primitive anyways.
No visions of the future- As much as I LOVE those effects shots, It's also spoilery for my project intentions.

The changes are listed in chronological order, scene-by-scene.
If you want to know the hows or whys about anything, feel free to ask. I'd love to talk all about it!


THE TERMINATOR
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SOURCES USED:
Main-

-The Terminator (MGM bluray, 2018)
Additional-
-The Terminator Deleted Scenes
--ai upscaled. corrected framerate. corrected aspect ratio.
--manual cleanup to remove print damage & artifacts.
-The Terminator score (Milan Records remaster, 2016)
-Beat Street Breakdown by Grandmaster Melle Mel (from the album Beat Street, 1984)
-sound effects (youtube.com)
CHANGES:
PRODUCTION CREDITS-

-added the Fanedit.org logo.
-added my fanedit production logo.
-added "A James Cameron Film" credit.
OPENING-
-cut the text explaining the situation & character goals.
FUTURE WAR-
-cut this entire scene.
TITLE CARD-
-cut the title card & opening credits.
ARRIVAL-
-cropped a shot of the trash truck to remove the on-screen date.
-cut the truck driver's looped "What the hell?" the 2nd time.
-new music begins as the Terminator stands. (Dreams of Future War)
-extended the shot of the Terminator looking over the city.
TITLE CARD-
-new title card.
-new sound effects during title.
-fade to black as the Terminator looks over the city.
DRUNK PUNKS-
-new music ties back into the original score as the Terminator approaches the punks.
-cut the Terminator repeating "Nice night for a walk."
-cut the Terminator repeating "Nothing clean, right."
REESE ON THE RUN-
-cut the cop's cartoonish "Whaa??" when Reese asks what year it is.
-slight zoom toward Sarah's name as Reese searches the phone book.
SARAH GOES TO WORK-
-tighter framing on the shot of Sarah's time card.
-added the deleted scene of Sarah prepping for her shift.
--adjusted contrast & color to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
DOWN AT THE PAWN SHOP-
-cut the Terminator asking for a "plasma rifle".
-cut the Terminator saying "Wrong" before shooting the shop owner.
RESSE GETS A CAR-
-cut Reese falling asleep in the car.
-cut Reese's dream about the future.
-a different section of Beat Street Breakdown plays when Reese starts the car.
APARTMENT MURDERS-
-clearer music cue after Ginger gets shot.
-edited the answering machine message to have the same timing as it did earlier.
--added an additional shot of the answering machine to make up the extra time.
-improved the music cue when the Terminator finds Sarah's ID.
CLUB ATTACK & ALLEY CHASE-
-cut the Terminators POV.
-cut the Terminators POV. Again.
PARKING GARAGE REVELATIONS-
-cut Reese saying "...Not for another 40 years."
-tighter edit when Sarah asks "Can you stop it?"
-cut Reese saying "...With these weapons? I don't know."
-cut Sarah asking "Why does it want me?" after asking "Why me?"
-cut Reese saying "Here... There...". He's used that cadence twice already.
AT THE POLICE STATION-
-added the deleted scene of Lt. Traxler & Officer Vukovich talking about Reese.
--adjusted the contrast & color to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
SELF SURGERY-
-new color timing on all shots of the fake head.
-shortened the shot of the fake head preparing to put the scalpel into the eye.
-shortened the shot of the fake head using the towel.
-cut a shot of the fake head before the sunglasses go on.
-shortened the shot of the fake head after the sunglasses go on.
POLICE STATION MASSACRE-
-cut Sarah asking "So Reese is crazy?" & Dr. Silberman's reply, "He's a loon."
-cut the Terminators POV.
-added the deleted scene of Lt. Traxler giving Reese his gun before he dies.
--adjusted the contrast & color to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
HIDING IN THE TUNNEL-
-cut Reese describing time travel as "...Like being born, maybe."
-cut Sarah saying "I didn't ask for this 'honor' & I don't want it."
-cut Reese telling Sarah "It's a good field dressing" & her "My first" response.
-extended the shot of Sarah falling asleep.
-fade out on the shot of Sarah falling asleep.
-cut Sarah dreaming about the future.
-cut the wake up scene.
IN THE TERMINATORS SMELLY ROOM-
-cut this entire scene.
AT THE TIKI HOTEL-
-corrected the lip-sync when the Terminator imitates Sarah's mothers voice.
-cut Sarah asking Reese what girls are like in the future & the ensuing conversation.
-shorter sex scene montage.
-cut the Terminator's POV.
CHASES & CRASHES-
-removed the first of Sarah's looped screams during the truck crash.
-new truck crash sound.
-cut the Terminator telling the trucker to "Get out."
-cut the Terminators POV.
-cut 4 shots of the fake head.
-re-edited the truck explosion so that the cab only blows up once.
IN THE FACTORY-
-shortened a shot of the Terminator chasing Sarah & Reese down the hall.
-Reese doesn't fall & give up once inside the factory.
-shuffled shots so the Terminator breaks the door while Reese is activating machinery.
-cut a puppetty-looking shot of the Terminator coming up the stairs.
-adjusted the color when the Terminator smacks Reese to better match the surrounding shots.
-cut the shot of the stop-motion Terminator walking up behind Reese.
-cut a puppetty-looking shot of the Terminator crawling.
-Sarah says "You're terminated" as the press crushes, instead of before hitting the button.
DOWN IN MEXICO-
-re-scored the end of the scene with Terminator Main Theme (Extended).
-new SFX for the Jeep starting, driving & thunder.
END CREDITS-
-cut the production manager & assistant credit.
-cut the Harlan Ellison acknowledgement.
-added the title card before the credits roll.
-re-scored the end credits with Terminator Main Theme (Extended).
-moved the cast to the beginning of the credits.
-slight speed-up of the end credits so that the text ends with the music instead of after.
POST-CREDITS-
-added the deleted scene of the microchip being found & the revelation that it's at Cyberdyne.
--adjusted the contrast to better match the bluray footage.
--adjusted the volume & EQ to better match the bluray audio.
--recut so that Sarah isn't taken away in the middle of the scene.
--added & edited music to score the scene. (The Terminator Main Title)
-added my production logo to the end.

ORIGINAL RUNTIME:
-107 mins.
TIME CUT-
-16 mins.
TIME ADDED-
-3 mins.
FINAL RUNTIME-
-94 mins.












TERMINATOR 2
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SOURCES USED:
Main-

-Terminator 2: Judgement Day (Lionsgate bluray, 2015)
Additional-
-Terminator 2: Judgement Day score (Varèse Sarabande Records, 1991)
-Guitars/Cadillacs by Dwight Yokam (from the album Guitars Cadillacs Ect Ect, 1986)
-sound effects (youtube.com)
CHANGES: (Based on the Extended Cut)
PRODUCTION CREDITS-
-added the Fanedit.org logo.
-added my fanedit production logo.
-added "A James Cameron Film" credit.
-cut the opening scene showing the future.
-cut Sarah's opening narration.
-cut the opening credits.
-cut the title.
ARRIVAL-
-the time-portal opens & closes faster.
-new music begins as the Terminator stands. (T2 Main Title)
-extended the shot of the Terminator looking towards the bar.
-cut the Terminators POV.
TITLE CARD-
-new title. (simply, Terminator 2)
-added a new title card.
-new sound effects during title.
-new music fades into the original soundtrack as title ends.
INSIDE THE BAR-
-shuffled a few shots as the Terminator walks across the room.
-cut the Terminators POV as it scans the room.
-cut the Terminators POV as it scans for fitting clothes.
-the biker doesn't blow smoke in the Terminators face.
-cut the Terminators POV as the biker blows smoke into it's face.
-added new sound effects. (talking & bar sounds)
-replaced music to match the new edit. (Guitars/Cadillacs by Dwight Yokam)
OUTSIDE THE BAR-
-cut this entire scene.
HOSPITAL TOUR/SARAH IN HER ROOM-
-cut this entire scene.
T-1000 GOES TO JOHN'S HOUSE-
-moved this scene to later on.
SARAH IN THE HOSPITAL-
-added the establishing shot of Pescadero Hospital, cut from earlier.
-cut Sarah's dream about Reese & the future.
-cut Sarah saying that she knows the date the machines become self-aware.
-cut Sarah naming the date.
-moved the scene at Cyberdyne to later on.
-smoother edit when Sarah mentions that she's shown improvement.
RELICS AT CYBERDYNE-
-inserted the scene of Miles Dyson at Cyberdyne, cut from earlier.
T-1000 GOES TO JOHN'S HOUSE-
-inserted the scene of the T-1000 questioning John's foster parents, cut from earlier.
FOLLOWING JOHN TO THE MALL-
-cut a shot of the Terminaor's POV as it identifies John.
MALL GETAWAY-
-adjusted the contrast as the T-1000 recovers on the floor to better match surrounding shots.
-John doesn't have trouble starting his bike.
-cut a shot of the T-1000 coming down the stairs.
FLOOD CHANNEL CHASE-
-cut a short shot of John on his bike.
-cut a short shot of the truck in pursuit.
-shortened the landing when the Terminator drives off the ramp.
STOP N' CHAT-
-cut John saying "OK, timeout! Stop the bike!"
-cut John saying "...You are a Terminator, right?" & the Terminators response.
-cut John saying "This is intense. Get a grip, John."
-John doesn't poke the Terminator as much.
-cut the Terminator saying "30 years from now..."
-cut John saying "This is deep."
T-1000 STEALS ANOTHER COP CAR-
-cut this entire scene.
T-1000 KILLS JOHN'S DOG-
-cut this entire scene.
HANGIN' WITH THE TERMINATOR-
-cut the first time John yells "Get this psycho off of me!"
-John doesn't ask why he was let go, he figures it out on his own.
-cut John's "Yes!" when the Terminator does what he commands.
-cut John saying "Cool. My own Terminator."
-cut the Terminator saying "...I'm a Terminator."
-cut John saying "Listen to me very carefully. You're not a Terminator anymore. Got that?"
-cut John saying "What do you mean "why"? You just can't."
-cut the Terminators 2nd "Why?"
HOSPITAL ESCAPE-
-cut the orderly licking Sarah's face.
-cut a short shot of the Terminator running towards the elevator.
-shortened the shot of the guard getting out of the car after Sarah shoots.
-cut the Terminator throwing the guard.
-shortened the shot of the T-1000 forming in the elevator.
-shortened the shot of the T-1000 coming out of the elevator.
-cut a shot of the T-1000 running towards the car.
IN THE CAR-
-cut John confirming that the T-1000 isn't still chasing them.
-cut Sarah asking John if he's ok.
-cut Sarah saying "I didn't need your help, I can take care of myself."
-cut the Terminator asking John "What's wrong with your eyes?" & John's "Nothing."
TERMINATOR BRAIN SURGERY-
-cut the Terminators POV as it looks into the mirror.
-cut the Terminators POV as it switches off.
-cut John saying "But he's my friend, alright?"
-cut some of the argument between Sarah & John.
-cut the Terminator reactivating.
ON THE ROAD AGAIN-
-cut John trying to teach the Terminator slang phrases.
ROADSIDE REST STOP-
-cut John trying to teach the Terminator to smile.
FUTURE EVENTS RUNDOWN-
-cut the dates from the Terminators chain of future events.
AT ENRIQUE'S DESERT CAMP-
-cut the Terminator saying "..."Uncle Bob"?"
-cut John talking about how this was all normal to him growing up.
-cut the Terminator's smile when he picks up the minigun.
WORKING ON THE TRUCK-
-cut John mentioning when he'll met his dad & what date he sends him back to.
-cut the Terminator asking "Why do you cry?" & John's explanation.
-cut the continuing "crying" conversation as they go to start the truck.
-new sound effects to replace the dialog. (wind, footsteps, leather jacket, hand claps)
-masked Arnold's mouth so de doesn't appear to be talking.
-replaced with John's dialog with "You could lighten up, yourself." cut from earlier.
-cut the Terminator saying "No problem-o."
-cut the "High Five!" scene.
-cut Sarah's narration.
-cut Sarah's dream about the future.
GOING TO STOP SARAH-
-cut the Terminator suggesting that killing Dyson could prevent the war.
-cut John's lecture about not killing people.
AT THE DYSON'S-
-shortened John & Sarah's chat.
-altered the music starting as the Terminator rips the flesh off his arm.
-increased the volume on Dyson's "Oh my god" as he recognizes the robot arm.
-extended the shot of the Terminator's robot hand.
-slight zoom-in on the shot of the Terminators robot hand.
-fade-out on the shot of the Terminators robot hand.
-cut Sarah's narration.
-fade-in on the shot of Miles Dyson, after having heard the story.
-altered music fades back into the original soundtrack as Miles speaks.
HIT THE ROAD TO CYBERDYNE-
-removed Sarah's narration.
FENDING OFF THE COPS-
-cut the helicopter pilot saying "That's a damn minigun!"
-cut the Terminators POV as it surveys the area.
-cut the Terminator saying "I'll be back."
-cut the cop saying "Ow, it hurts!"
-cut the Terminators POV as it scans for casualties.
-cut the T-1000 telling the helicopter pilot to "Get out."
-cut the helicopter pilots goofy head nodding response.
HIGHWAY CHASE-
-altered the concerned driver's goofy "Hello?"
-cut a short rear-screen shot of the Terminator reloading.
AT THE STEEL MILL-
-cut the Terminator saying "Hasta la vista, baby."
-cut two shots of John & Sarah getting out of the truck.
-cut some shots of the liquid metal reforming.
-cut the T-1000's arm malfunctioning.
-cut the T-1000's feet malfunctioning.
-cut the Terminators POV as it searches for the T-1000.
-shortened a shot of Sarah as the T-1000 threatens her.
-cut a shot of the fake Terminator head getting bashed.
-cut the Terminators POV as it reboots.
-cut the T-1000's feet malfunctioning.
-cut the T-1000 morphing into it's victims as it melts.
-cut the Terminator saying "I need a vacation."
-cut the Terminator telling John he knows about crying.
-cut the Terminator's thumbs-up.
-cut Sarah's closing narration.
-added closing "No Fate..." text.
END CREDITS-
-added the title card before the credits roll.
-slight speed-up on the end credits text.
-replaced the GnR song during the end credits with SWAT Team Attacks.
POST CREDITS-
-added a shot of the Terminator in flames, cut from the opening credits.
--cropped the shot tight, focusing on the eyes.
-added the track Trust Me.
-added my production logo to the end.

ORIGINAL RUNTIME-
-153 mins. (Extended Edition)
TIME CUT-
-23 mins.
TIME ADDED-
-1 min.
FINAL RUNTIME-
-125 mins.












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Extras:

Soundtrack
This is a collection of various songs & pieces of score used the Terminator [raymix] Duology.
I've used the best available mix/master of each track & adjusted the gain to make them all sound cohesive.

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Tracklist-
01. The Terminator (Main Title) [raymix] - Brad Fiedel
02. Intimacy - Linn Van Hek
03. Burnin' In the 3rd Degree - Tahnee Cain & Tryanglz
04. Beat Street Breakdown - Grandmaster Melle Mel

05. Pictures of You - Jay Ferguson & 16mm

06. Dreams of Future War - Brad Fiedel
07. Terminator 2 (Main Title) - Brad Fiedel
08. Guitars, Cadillacs - Dwight Yokam

09. Into the Vault - Brad Fiedel
10. Swat Team Attacks - Brad Fiedel
11. You Could Be Mine - Guns n' Roses
12. Trust Me - Brad Fiedel








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Peroration:
I love the original cuts of these films & I'm not really trying to fix any perceived flaws, but this is my preferred way of experiencing this story.
These are actually remakes of my first edits, back in 2010. Those were just to show friends & I lost the files a long time back...
It feels good to finally finish this project in HD & see it released for all to see.

These films are a perfect double feature. I hope you enjoy this alternate take on the Terminator Duology!

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Updated the OP with additional info & some last minute changes.
I'm submitting these to the IFDb today, so they should be up next weekend.
 
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I'm flattered by all the PMs requesting the link!
I will get it out to everybody this weekend.
The IFDb listing for T2[raymix] goes live on Sunday & I wanna send this out as a complete set.
Go ahead & PM me if you haven't. I'll go through em all one by one.
 

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The Duology link is live!
Just sent it to everyone who already PMed me. If you've sent a PM & don't yet have the link, hit me up again.
If you haven't yet PMed me for the link, go right ahead!
I hope you all dig em!
Be sure to check the soundtrack I put together. Some cool, fun & rare tracks!
 

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UPDATE!
Both films were rendered n the wrong aspect ratio. This didn't squish or stretch the image, but it did heavily crop the image.
Both films have been re-rendered in the correct aspect ratio. I've also adjusted some settings to knock a couple gigs off each film without loosing quality.

The updated versions are available from the same link I've sent out, if you have that, you can use it to update.
If you don't have the link, PM for it!
 
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Introducing The Terminator [raymix] Duology Version 1.1!
This is an update for both films, the soundtrack & the artwork.
The big draw here is upscaled deleted scenes in T1! These scenes now match the blu-ray footage much more closely.
This is one of the most criticized aspects of 1.0. It's still not a perfect blend, but it's much better. The difference is astounding.
I've also made a few stylistic changes that bring things in line with my other edits.
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OVERALL CHANGES:

TECHNICAL IMPROVEMENTS-

-deleted scenes have been upscaled. (BIG thanks to @Bobson Dugnutt
-deleted scenes are in the correct aspect ratio.
-deleted scenes frame rate now matches the film.
-new render settings create higher quality files.

ARTWORK-
-each film has updated poster art. Check it out in the OP!

SOUNDTRACK-
-new [raymix] of The Terminator Main Theme.
-improved artwork corrects some errors.
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NEW 1.1 CHANGELISTS-
Here's the lists of additional changes made to each film for V 1.1.
-Note that these lists only contain the additional changes made for 1.1-
These are NOT the full changelists for the films. For the full list of changes, check the updated OP.

THE TERMINATOR 1.1 CHANGES
These are the additional changes made to my edit of The Terminator for V 1.1.
I've fixed up some of the original 1.0 changes, but that work isn't listed.

PRODUCTION CREDITS-
-added V 1.1 to the Ray Danger Production credit.
DELETED SCENES-
-the footage has been upscaled, making a closer match to the bluray.
-the frame rate now matches the film.
-the aspect ratio has been corrected.
-frame-by-frame manual cleanup to remove print damage & artifacts.
DOWN IN MEXICO-
-re-scored the end of the scene with Terminator Main Theme (Extended).
-new SFX for the Jeep starting, driving & thunder.
END CREDITS-
-added the title card before the credits roll.
-re-scored the end credits with Terminator Main Theme (Extended).
-moved the cast to the beginning of the credits.

TERMINATOR 2 1.1 CHANGES
These are the additional changes made to my edit of Terminator 2- Judgement Day for V 1.1.
I've fixed up some of the original 1.0 changes, but that work isn't listed.

PRODUCTION CREDITS-
-added V 1.1 to the Ray Danger Production credit.
ARRIVAL-
-re-timed the music.
TITLE CARD-
-re-timed the title.
END CREDITS-
-added the title card before the credits roll.

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PLEASE UPDATE!
V 1.1 is a small update, but a worthwhile one.
The upscaling on the T1 deleted scenes makes 1.1 an absolute MUST.
I really hope that everyone who has enjoyed my work will update.

Trick r' Treat!
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Examples of the upscaled & aspect corrected deleted scenes for V 1.1-

Sara V 1.0-
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Traxler V 1.1-
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Absolutely pristine in comparison!
You can also see that I've tweaked my original color correction a bit, helping it match the blu-ray footage even more closely.
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