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The Quotes Thread

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Moe_Syzlak said:
If we’re going that route...

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"We don't make movies to make money, we make money to make more movies."

- Walt Disney

I encountered this quote in austinmcconnell's video about his experience filmmaking. We as the audience can easily critique a movie meanly and unfairly sometimes, and say that no one had cared about the movie/TV show we get, but sometimes mistakes are made, priorities are misplaced, and we just end up disappointed sometimes. A filmmaker's job should not be making a movie, it should be telling a story. The passion is what makes or breaks a story.

Here's austinmcconnell's video by the way:

 

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theryaney said:
"We don't make movies to make money, we make money to make more movies."

- Walt Disney

"The pursuit of making money is the only reason to make movies. We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make a statement. But to make money."

~Michael Eisner

Interesting how the corporation's perspective shifted...
 

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And that's why I have nothing but respect and admiration for Disney the man, but nothing but contempt and loathing for Disney the company.
 

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Zamros said:
theryaney said:
"We don't make movies to make money, we make money to make more movies."

- Walt Disney

"The pursuit of making money is the only reason to make movies. We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make a statement. But to make money."

~Michael Eisner

Interesting how the corporation's perspective shifted...

I don't see those two things being necessarily at odds. Is it ruthless? Of course. But he was CEO from the mid 80s to the early 2000s, meaning he oversaw the (in my opinion) creative comeback of Disney studios. The run in the 90s was excellent. Just because you don't care about the art doesn't mean you don't hire people who make good art.

Also, both quotes are saying that they are going to make money, so I don't see a massive shift. It's kinda semantic IMO.
 

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thecuddlyninja said:
I don't see those two things being necessarily at odds. Is it ruthless? Of course. But he was CEO from the mid 80s to the early 2000s, meaning he oversaw the (in my opinion) creative comeback of Disney studios. The run in the 90s was excellent. Just because you don't care about the art doesn't mean you don't hire people who make good art.

Also, both quotes are saying that they are going to make money, so I don't see a massive shift. It's kinda semantic IMO.

There's quite bit of difference. 

Walt Disney's quote meant that he saw making money as just a means to and end, that end being making more movies. It meant that the artistry of making the movies was his real goal, and he saw the money as just a way of achieving that.

Michael Eisner's quote, on the other hand, means that he saw making movies as a means to an end, that end being making money. It meant that the money itself was his goal, and he saw the artistry of making movies as just a means to make a viable product that would sell well and make money.
 

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hbenthow said:
thecuddlyninja said:
I don't see those two things being necessarily at odds. Is it ruthless? Of course. But he was CEO from the mid 80s to the early 2000s, meaning he oversaw the (in my opinion) creative comeback of Disney studios. The run in the 90s was excellent. Just because you don't care about the art doesn't mean you don't hire people who make good art.

Also, both quotes are saying that they are going to make money, so I don't see a massive shift. It's kinda semantic IMO.

There's quite bit of difference. 

Walt Disney's quote meant that he saw making money as just a means to and end, that end being making more movies. It meant that the artistry of making the movies was his real goal, and he saw the money as just a way of achieving that.

Michael Eisner's quote, on the other hand, means that he saw making movies as a means to an end, that end being making money. It meant that the money itself was his goal, and he saw the artistry of making movies as just a means to make a viable product that would sell well and make money.

So they both made money and oversaw great artistry. The end result was the same: good movies, which I consumed.
 

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So they both made money and oversaw great artistry. The end result was the same: good movies, which I consumed.

The end result may have been the same, but the sentiments expressed in their quotes are more or less opposites. It is sometimes possible to get to the same place by two different roads.

It is a well-known fact that self-interest is a powerful motivator to provide quality products. Sell good products, and people like them more and buy more of them, so you make good money. So I'm not knocking the ability of a "money person" to produce a high-quality product or work of art. I'm just saying that, at least if those two quotes present the true attitudes of Walt Disney and Michael Eisner, they had different philosophies regarding art and money.
 
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