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I've wanted to do a hybrid approach edit to one of my favorite films of all time, That Thing You Do! utilizing the best of the theatrical and extended editions of the film. I've been a bit stuck with some more intensive edits so I'm hoping this relatively straight forward edit can help give me a boost as well as finally realize the perfect version of That Thing You Do!
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Editing is COMPLETE
The base source for this edit was Tom Hanks' Extended Edition
Other sources: Theatrical Version
Edit List:
- Custom FE Warning
- FE Logo by theryaney
- Tribute to Adam Schlesigner
- Removed Guy meeting Tina while he drives home and their night time make out fest where Tina is talking about their future prospects and telling Guy what he should do with Patterson's Appliance
- Cut Jimmy saying, "You can hit my girlfriend's car any time". Line delivery was cheesy and Jimmy will have plenty of other moments to show how un into Faye he is
- Cut extended Patterson's Appliance scene to remove the Telemart eye twitch scene and fight between Guy and his sister. Again, the line delivery feels cheesy and it slows down the scene. It now cuts after Guy says they should move across town.
- Cut the whispered F-bomb by Chad
- Removed the extended scenes of Faye, TBP, Lenny and Jimmy checking on Chad on the side of the road
- Removed Lenny calling Chad and @$$hole
- Removed Ken saying he's going to kick the Oneders lonely fan's @$$ after he yells at him to shut up
- Cut extended scenes of Jimmy begging to re-record All My Only Dreams (causes a continuity error anyway when he mentions to Mr. White that they only got one take)
- Cut shots of people taking and passing the fire extinguisher around during My Little Wild One
- Re-inserted scene from the Theatrical cut of Horace buying a record
- Cut some of Jimmy's freaking out at the crowd when the riot starts, now cuts to Lenny saying, 'This means they want an encore!"
- Cut extended scene of Tina's first time in the dentists office and restored the original cut where she first meets the dentist
- Cut Chad running into the band at Watson's when Guy gives them all radios to listen for the song
- Repurposed opening shot (cropped) to have an exterior establishing shot after Guy says they should listen for the song on the radios
- Added portion of The Ventures "Walk - Don't Run" during the shot of them driving past the marquee sign
- Put Jimmy's "Shhhh!" over the top of Lenny calling Boss Vick Koss an @$$hole
- Removed secretary implying that she heard Lenny call Boss Vick Koss it when she's talking to Guy
- Brought argument between theatre usher and Faye up in the audio mix to create seamless removal of secretary line and visual of Guy hearing and moving on to help Faye
- Restored Theatrical version of first performance with Playtone and the rising up the charts montage
- Re-arranged ending of the final state fair tour performance to have them immediately pull out their cables and run off stage, then the fans start to hop the fence and storm the stage (added crowd sound effects to smooth out transitions)
- Restored Theatrical version of Goofball's "We're being invaded line"
- Removed some portions of Sal Siler
- Removed Guy being dropped off and his drunken exchange with Mr. White and Lloyd
- Reinstated the Theatrical transition of the clock and phone ringing
- Removed scenes of the talking monkeys and Guy getting lost when he first arrives at the tv showcase
- Cut scenes of the tv exec freaking out about milk in his coffee
- Removed Lloyd from the credits
- Logos placed at the end
Edit run time: 2hrs 15min (with credits)
Time Cut: 13 minutes
Time Added: 1 minute
Here's a breakdown of the extended scenes and what I would include, exclude or hybridize.
Extended Scenes to consider:
Mr. Downtown - Guy and Tina
I personally don't care for this extended scene much as the external filming of the cars looks really different and the acting feels more like a commercial parody. Yes it does give some insight into both of their characters, but it's just off. Also, the movie on the tv is The Vikings (1958), not Spartacus (1960). Yes, it's more likely that The Vikings would be on the tv, but it's just distracting because of the Kirk Douglas connection. Ultimately this scene just serves to establish that Guy is whipped and Tina only cares about money. We get that from the theatrical version without this scene. Verdict: Theatrical
Extended Diner scene
I'm not much for the acting of the cut content as it feels a bit slow and forced. It does show the beginning of the connection between Faye and Guy, but the garage scene is a better playful connection.
Verdict: Theatrical
Telemart Entrance Extended
I like this scene up until the telemart comment and the reactions. The whole scene just loses life at that point.
Verdict: Hybrid
Chad Fell Down Extended
Again, forced dialogue delivery.
Verdict: Theatrical
Garage Band
I like the chemistry between the characters and the insight into how the band works together.
Verdict: Extended
Jimmy, Lenny & Bologna Sandwiches
I really don't like the way this scene starts. It feels like a vaccum that sucks the life out of the movie. Guy and Faye have some awesome chemistry in this scene that I want to keep. I'm not much for Faye's "It's about me". For some reason it makes Faye's character less of a strong individual than I original thought. Yes she was Jimmy's girlfriend and that's why she was around, but I always felt she was more than that. This line almost turns her into one of the girls that makes Lenny say, "Well I like Wisconsin".
Verdict: Hybrid
What about the B-Side?
Jimmy is just so whiny here and the acting feels a bit forced.
Verdict: Theatrical
Villapiano's Riot & Horace's Intro
This one drags on a bit too long, but I really like the Band and Faye's reaction. I also like the family's dig on Guy and the band in the next scene. Once Phil Horace shows up the editing of the extended scene feels a bit choppy with the cutting back to the family and then to Guy and Phil. The theatrical flow was a lot better here.
Verdict: Hybrid
Phil exit & Tina and her number 15 molar
I'm not sure about the exit scenes with Phil Horace.
Verdict: Undecided
Lamenting Signing and Christmas in July
The small added bits of dialogue here are fun and don't detract to much from the speed of the movie until Chad shows up.
Verdict: Hybrid
Giddy Boy & Phil and Guy
The acting when Phil shows up feels a bit off, especially Guy. He's just a bit too giddy? I personally like the theatrical cut for this one. Guy's inclusion of Faye, while it's nice and serves to further his connection with her, feels forced here.
Verdict: Theatrical
Vicksburg Extended Intro
I love the extension of the band on the stage here. You really get a great insight into each of the band members here. Vic Koss' dressing room scene is a bit of a slow down and doesn't really work well, imho. Guy hitting on Vic's secretary is pointless. I do like Guy and Faye's scenes directly after though. Faye's character really blossoms here, that individual I was talking about earlier, and the connection between she and Guy is just fantastic.
Verdict: Hybrid
Rising up the Charts
The only real addition here is Tina hearing the song on the radio with the dentist and a visual of her oving on from Guy along with TBP and the girl from the Chantrelines hooking up. I like the speed and presentation of the original more for this one.
Verdict: Theatrical
Chad applies at Paterson's
I really don't care for this scene.
Verdict: Theatrical
Must Still Be at the Dentist
Guy's phone call and Tina's empty room are not my favorite, but I do like the scenes of Tina with the Dentist. I'll probably cut the first part of this scene and keep the golf. I'll also keep the scenes of Tina and the Dentist redoing his office wallpaper.
Verdict: Hybrid
That Thing You Do! County Fair performance
There's a small change to the flow here and I'm not sure it adds anything.
Verdict: Undecided
On the plane Extended
This scene turns Mr. White into a stuck up manager and I'm not to keen on it.
Verdict: Theatrical
Goofball
These extended scenes don't do anything for the story.
Verdict: Theatrical
Radio interviews
I like these scenes. They delve into the geeky nerdy musical side of Guy and set up the future plot point of the Guy talking with the Gods of Jazz. Also, I like the shout out to Faye which again furthers their connection.
Paying homage to Sal
I think most of the extensions here are fine, I'm not sure if it adds anything to the movie, but it also doesn't detract.
Verdict: Undecided
Guy after the Blue Spot
I don't like these scenes at all. The acting, the pacing, everything.
Verdict: Theatrical
CBS Studios
Guy is really weird in these clips. I'd just assume cut his frantic arrival and follow the theatrical presentation here. I also don't like the scene of Mr. White and Jimmy and the director in the booth freaking out about milk. I'd start it at Faye's arrival.
Verdict: Hybrid
Jimmy & Faye's Fallout
Kitty's lines kind of break of the flow here, but that's probably because I watched the Theatrical for so many years. I'll probably include it.
Verdict: Extended
Guy & the Immortals, the Gods of Jazz
As a music nerd, I love these scenes.
Verdict: Extended
Faye and Guy
I like the extended version of these scenes as they tie in the previous Gods of Jazz scenes.
Verdict: Extended
I personally don't care for this extended scene much as the external filming of the cars looks really different and the acting feels more like a commercial parody. Yes it does give some insight into both of their characters, but it's just off. Also, the movie on the tv is The Vikings (1958), not Spartacus (1960). Yes, it's more likely that The Vikings would be on the tv, but it's just distracting because of the Kirk Douglas connection. Ultimately this scene just serves to establish that Guy is whipped and Tina only cares about money. We get that from the theatrical version without this scene. Verdict: Theatrical
Extended Diner scene
I'm not much for the acting of the cut content as it feels a bit slow and forced. It does show the beginning of the connection between Faye and Guy, but the garage scene is a better playful connection.
Verdict: Theatrical
Telemart Entrance Extended
I like this scene up until the telemart comment and the reactions. The whole scene just loses life at that point.
Verdict: Hybrid
Chad Fell Down Extended
Again, forced dialogue delivery.
Verdict: Theatrical
Garage Band
I like the chemistry between the characters and the insight into how the band works together.
Verdict: Extended
Jimmy, Lenny & Bologna Sandwiches
I really don't like the way this scene starts. It feels like a vaccum that sucks the life out of the movie. Guy and Faye have some awesome chemistry in this scene that I want to keep. I'm not much for Faye's "It's about me". For some reason it makes Faye's character less of a strong individual than I original thought. Yes she was Jimmy's girlfriend and that's why she was around, but I always felt she was more than that. This line almost turns her into one of the girls that makes Lenny say, "Well I like Wisconsin".
Verdict: Hybrid
What about the B-Side?
Jimmy is just so whiny here and the acting feels a bit forced.
Verdict: Theatrical
Villapiano's Riot & Horace's Intro
This one drags on a bit too long, but I really like the Band and Faye's reaction. I also like the family's dig on Guy and the band in the next scene. Once Phil Horace shows up the editing of the extended scene feels a bit choppy with the cutting back to the family and then to Guy and Phil. The theatrical flow was a lot better here.
Verdict: Hybrid
Phil exit & Tina and her number 15 molar
I'm not sure about the exit scenes with Phil Horace.
Verdict: Undecided
Lamenting Signing and Christmas in July
The small added bits of dialogue here are fun and don't detract to much from the speed of the movie until Chad shows up.
Verdict: Hybrid
Giddy Boy & Phil and Guy
The acting when Phil shows up feels a bit off, especially Guy. He's just a bit too giddy? I personally like the theatrical cut for this one. Guy's inclusion of Faye, while it's nice and serves to further his connection with her, feels forced here.
Verdict: Theatrical
Vicksburg Extended Intro
I love the extension of the band on the stage here. You really get a great insight into each of the band members here. Vic Koss' dressing room scene is a bit of a slow down and doesn't really work well, imho. Guy hitting on Vic's secretary is pointless. I do like Guy and Faye's scenes directly after though. Faye's character really blossoms here, that individual I was talking about earlier, and the connection between she and Guy is just fantastic.
Verdict: Hybrid
Rising up the Charts
The only real addition here is Tina hearing the song on the radio with the dentist and a visual of her oving on from Guy along with TBP and the girl from the Chantrelines hooking up. I like the speed and presentation of the original more for this one.
Verdict: Theatrical
Chad applies at Paterson's
I really don't care for this scene.
Verdict: Theatrical
Must Still Be at the Dentist
Guy's phone call and Tina's empty room are not my favorite, but I do like the scenes of Tina with the Dentist. I'll probably cut the first part of this scene and keep the golf. I'll also keep the scenes of Tina and the Dentist redoing his office wallpaper.
Verdict: Hybrid
That Thing You Do! County Fair performance
There's a small change to the flow here and I'm not sure it adds anything.
Verdict: Undecided
On the plane Extended
This scene turns Mr. White into a stuck up manager and I'm not to keen on it.
Verdict: Theatrical
Goofball
These extended scenes don't do anything for the story.
Verdict: Theatrical
Radio interviews
I like these scenes. They delve into the geeky nerdy musical side of Guy and set up the future plot point of the Guy talking with the Gods of Jazz. Also, I like the shout out to Faye which again furthers their connection.
Paying homage to Sal
I think most of the extensions here are fine, I'm not sure if it adds anything to the movie, but it also doesn't detract.
Verdict: Undecided
Guy after the Blue Spot
I don't like these scenes at all. The acting, the pacing, everything.
Verdict: Theatrical
CBS Studios
Guy is really weird in these clips. I'd just assume cut his frantic arrival and follow the theatrical presentation here. I also don't like the scene of Mr. White and Jimmy and the director in the booth freaking out about milk. I'd start it at Faye's arrival.
Verdict: Hybrid
Jimmy & Faye's Fallout
Kitty's lines kind of break of the flow here, but that's probably because I watched the Theatrical for so many years. I'll probably include it.
Verdict: Extended
Guy & the Immortals, the Gods of Jazz
As a music nerd, I love these scenes.
Verdict: Extended
Faye and Guy
I like the extended version of these scenes as they tie in the previous Gods of Jazz scenes.
Verdict: Extended
Well that's where I stand in my head on what I'd do to this film to create the perfect hybrid. Do you agree, disagree? Have any other thoughts?