Moe_Syzlak said:
People don’t like the Holdo character so they’ll find any excuse to criticize her. Some criticisms are valid, others not so much. I keep coming back to execution. If the execution is there, people tend not to nitpick the logic. Take the lightspeed jump. Most people thought it was a cool moment, so you don’t hear people say *wait a minute, how did she jump to lightspeed with no fuel!?* Leia in space didn’t really work; Vader in space (in R1) was cool and nary a nitpick.
Then why does it seem that there isn't any agreement of the points that are valid but only general disagreement?
If I agree with some points and disagree with others I'll point out the ones I agree with and (try to) discuss the ones I don't. If you write a super long post with a lot of different points and the discussion then shifts to one specific/minor point where there's disagreement and the rest of your argument or all your points are declared invalid with a generalized statement because of this or are ignored entirely, it doesn't make for a fun discussion.
For example I agree with you that the execution is an important part in selling a plot point BUT you still have to find a balance between a good/cool execution of a scene and a good/comprehensible reasoning why that scene exists. If I do a cool scene that makes no sense in the context of the narrative or breaks the established personality of a character, it's not gonna be good. If I do a scene that makes sense for the narrative but is shot poorly, it's also not gonna be very good.
In the case of Holdo's sacrifice it was shot in a cool way but I felt nothing in regards to her character dying because she didn't really earn it in regard to her character arc. If I compare that to Qui-Gon Jinn's death in Episode I it's a whole different story. We can connect to him because of his character arc, and therefore we will remember his character, even though TPM had a lot of flaws.