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Star Wars - The Final Order by Spence

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All versions have been updated with the fixed audio track. Again, the audio track is also available on it's own if you just want to remux it to the version you may have already obtained. It'll work for any of the sizes.

Now that that's been solved, here's some stuff I'm doing for Version 2:

- The little bit of old crawl text that snuck into the background has been eliminated.

- Palpatine's line about killing him and passing on his spirit has been moved back to the end of the movie, where it originally took place. This clarifies Palpatine's plans a bit more, but also makes Rey seem less clueless. I have reverted his line at the beginning back to the "unnatural abilities" thing he originally said. The editing around both of these scenes is a little less choppy now because I could retain more shots of Palpatine.

- The color/brightness/contrast of Leia's death scene is adjusted to better match the daylight scenes with Rey. I can't do much about the rain in the background, but it can be assumed this is just water from inside the cave. It at least now looks like it's roughly the same time of day.

- The transition from leaving on the Falcon to Kylo and the Knights of Ren flying to the Star Destroyer has been reworked to be a little less sudden.

- Some tweaks to the dialogue replacement in the Force Bond fight to give Kylo more purpose in the scene, beyond taunting Rey. It's not much, but it's a little more context and makes it feel less rushed.

- I put the initial reaction to Hux being the spy back in. I still hate it, but cutting it just makes it feel disjointed. Can't win 'em all.

- Rey's line about finding and destroying Palpatine has been removed. The idea was to make her intentions a little murky, but it didn't really work. Also, murky intentions aren't a particularly "Star Warsy" notion, especially for the main character. Now she hears the Sith whisper and reacts to it, which triggers Finn to try to comfort her.

- The transition from Ben on the Death Star to Rey on Ach-To has been reworked to be a bit smoother.

I've received feedback on some other things as well, but I'm not changing everything that's been mentioned. Some of it I'm fine with as-is, and some of it is a deliberate choice that I like. I want this to be the best it can be, but I also want it to remain "The Spence Edit."

I'm certain that a lot of the work from this is going to find it's way into future fanedits. I know HAL9000 is doing a Rey Nobody version of Ascendent that will incorporate a lot of the things I did here, just as I used a lot of the work from his edit for this. That's the fun part of Star Wars edits. We borrow and steal from each other to make new things. If there's something I did here that I'm not intending to change that irks you, by all means, borrow and steal!
 

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I'm testing out an idea, this is very rough.

Basically, I wanted to try and establish that something is up with Leia before her actual death scene so it doesn't come out of nowhere. I don't know that this is a change I NEED to do, but I think it might help with the choppiness at the beginning of the edit.

Here's a test clip of the concept:


Obviously I'd have to tidy up the audio transition and add ambient sound, but do you think this is worth pursuing?
 

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I'm testing out an idea, this is very rough.

Basically, I wanted to try and establish that something is up with Leia before her actual death scene so it doesn't come out of nowhere. I don't know that this is a change I NEED to do, but I think it might help with the choppiness at the beginning of the edit.

Here's a test clip of the concept:


Obviously I'd have to tidy up the audio transition and add ambient sound, but do you think this is worth pursuing?
I think it is a good idea, Leia feeling she is going to die and obviously Kylo (Ben) and Rey feeling her death.
 

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I'm testing out an idea, this is very rough.

Basically, I wanted to try and establish that something is up with Leia before her actual death scene so it doesn't come out of nowhere. I don't know that this is a change I NEED to do, but I think it might help with the choppiness at the beginning of the edit.

Here's a test clip of the concept:


Obviously I'd have to tidy up the audio transition and add ambient sound, but do you think this is worth pursuing?
While I honestly believe the way you originally had it works very well,
if you wanted to go this direction, what if you cut from 13 seconds (Leia's hand grabs the console) to 25seconds Rey's expression right after she is zapped, the audience might infer Rey feels Leia's pain?
But would you insert before all of this an establishing shot of Leia? Or would you go back and re-insert the whole original scene between Leia and Rey?
 

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Having watched your original edit, I do think this is better. But the transition to the MF still seems abrupt. It’s needs another beat.
 

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As if my opinion matters...I really like your concept here. The clip of her getting weak at the console and the others who are strong in the force feeling it, added weight to idea of Leia's death. I liked the expressions of the other soldiers as well.
 

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I've decided not to include the above clip with more Leia footage. Conceptually it's helpful, but the flow of everything gets thrown off by it.

During the Leia death scene, I've swapped the last shots of Rey and Kylo. A lot of feedback told me I should have them the way I have them now, but it doesn't feel right on my gut. Going from Rey's reaction to Kylo's reaction, then down to the Falcon just feels better/right to me. I can't really explain it. As Finn says, it's a feeling.

I've got a few other things I'm trying with, so this V2 should be ready for next month. It's not a huge revolutionary difference. The biggest change is to the two big Palpatine scenes. So if you were pretty happy with V1, V2 isn't a requirement.

Getting the new audio file for V1 because I messed up rendering the surround panning, however, is definitely a requirement!
 
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