Separating Sound Effects, Dialogue and Music?

[Rojira]

Are there any ways in separating these from eachother when wanting to do an edit?

(***Mod note*** You can find a very useful how-to here)

(***Mod note 2*** You can find a way to extract dialogue from an isolated track, with varying results, here)

 

[boon23]

a program like CINENAMTIZE can split all channels and give you each channel as a single wav. This can be very helpful. Often themusic comes just from the rear channels and the sound effects only from left and right, whereas the voices are centered.

 

[Rojira]

Thanks for the help Boon!

 

[nOmArch]

is there anything similar for the pc? being able to seperate music and dialogue would be unbelievably useful!

 

[boon23]

cinematize is for the PC and the mac.

 

[nOmArch]

thought it was a bit strange that it would be mac only, although the site doesn't really go out of its way to tell you theres a pc version.

looks good will have to wait a bit til i can afford it though.

 

[TeresofBlood]

I have it for PC. It's a kickass program. It's all you need to get your MPEG files and sound files to edit.

 

[ultimatesquash]

are there any other programs that can do this? i cannot afford to buy cinamtize at the moment and it would be an amzingly handy tool for my next edit. i probably have tools that can do this already and just dont know it i imagine this can be achieved with womble? can someone help?

 

[boon23]

besweet can do that too (kind of). Try the convert to wave option. Aslo there is foobar2000. Pretty great freeware tool.
You can probably find guides on all this on http://www.videohelp.com

 

[DaveRambo]

Hi,

I'm wondering if it would be possible to remove the 'music' part of a movie which has a 5.1 mix - to remove the music and just have the other audo channels, i.e. the voices, sound effects, ect?

Does anyone know what software I could use to start experiementing with isolating different channels of a 5.1 mix?

Thanks!

 

[DaveRambo]

Forgot to mention, I'm looking for Windows compatiable software to do this (not currently a Mac user).

 

[T-HOPE]

I rip the audio track with DVDdecrypter, then use BeSweet to extrac the 5.1 mix into 6 separate audio channels.

Howver, I'm not an audio expert since I also have trouble with removing the background music while fanediting.

 

[nOmArch]

it depends on the 5.1 mix. some you can, some you cant. only way to find out is to rip it and try.

 

[Frantic Canadian]

It's possible but it depends if the music is limited to one specific channel. When I did my Zack And Miri Make A Porno EE I needed to remove the song "Wynona's Big Brown Beaver" by Primus from the opening scene so that I could add in two scene extensions and luckily for me the song was limited to only one channel but that's not always the case. I used DVD Audio Extractor to extract the audio and then I used BeSweet to seperate the channels.

 

[Phantom Stranger]

I used DVD Audio Extractor to extract the audio and then I used BeSweet to seperate the channels.

Since DVD Audio Extractor separates the channels, why would you use BeSweet? Does it do a better job?

 

[Frantic Canadian]

I used DVD Audio Extractor to extract the audio and then I used BeSweet to seperate the channels.

Since DVD Audio Extractor separates the channels, why would you use BeSweet? Does it do a better job?

As far as I know it doesn't seperate channels. When I extracted the audio all it gave me was one track which is why I had to use BeSweet to seperate them into individual channels.

 

[Phantom Stranger]

I've used DVD Audio Extractor to separate channels. It was rather simple, although I'm new to the audio editing thing so I don't have much to compare it to. Go down to #5 under step two:

http://www.castudio.org/dvdaudioextract ... al-wav.php

 

[Frantic Canadian]

I see the problem now. The version shown is 3.5.1 but I'm using version 2.3.1 which doesn't give you the option to split the channels.

 

[TMBTM]

After having separate the center audio channel, if some music remains, download Audacity 1.3 beta, there is a "remove noise filter" that can be useful and easy to use.
You choose a segment of music as the noise to remove then apply the filter to all the scene you want to music to be removed. But there are musics with intruments close to voices frequencies, so you'll have to play with the options a bit... and sometimes it's just impossible to make a proper "only voices" audio.

 

[boon23]

Have you ever wanted to get rid of the music part of a song and just have the lyrics. Well it is quite simple to do actually.

First you will need to have the instrumental version of the song and a decent audio editing program. One with multi track ability. Now load the song into one track and the instrumental into another one. Make sure that they are lined up perfectly so that when you play them both there is no lag between them.
Ok, now edit just the instrumental track. Programs will very, but if you can there should be a filter to let you either invert or do a phase shift. You need the track to be shifted 180 degrees. Ok once you have inverted the instrumental track return to the multi track view. Mute and full song tack and play just the instrumental. Hear the difference? If you do you did something wrong. Inverting the track will have no effect on how it sounds by itself. However, if you unmute the full song now and have both tracks playing at the same time, you should only hear the lyrics.
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read the full article: http://www.machinima.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20412

If properly done this works VERY well, but of course it is not easy, starting with the EXACT timelines and volume. Do not expect to have crystal clear voice and effects sound after that, but if you put a different score on it, it can sound pretty perfect. The is a pro method and it is work.

Also for scenes without talking: think about doing the effects sounds yourself.
freesound is a great source to find sound FX: http://www.freesound.org/index.php
you can also buy professional sound effects that can be an invaluable help. The sound ideas series offers ANYTHING you can wish for.