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Scott Pilgrim vs. the Editor

RoccondilRinon

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UPDATE: TRAILER NOW LIVE

So in the process of assembling my 3-in-1 Hobbit edit, I found myself becoming more and more ambitious, and having to teach myself many of the necessary skills, such as compositing, colour grading and sound mixing, that I hadn’t really done before. I decided I care too much about The Hobbit to be comfortable with making it my first effort, and, to be quite honest, I want to make a name for myself as an editor and build some anticipation for the main event. So I’ve decided to revisit a couple of earlier edit ideas first.

Obviously, the main point of The Hobbit: Roadshow Edition is to assemble a single coherent film telling the whole story. These edits are comparatively much smaller in scale, and the first one is an extended edition of Edgar Wright’s Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, incorporating a few full-length songs that were only heard as snippets in the original movie, adding in a number of deleted scenes and alternative takes, and so on.

It’s not strictly just an extended edition, as it removes a few elements and includes alternative takes or scenes, not just extra shots or scenes. Additionally, because the deleted scenes included on the Blu Ray were cut at various stages of the production, not all of them feature completed visual effects, and most of them require colour grading to fit in with the rest of the movie. Some were partially reshot, and so require more extensive work to match them to the reshot footage that in some cases is the only available version of the rest of the scene.

So it’s a pretty good test for putting together footage from disparate sources, which I’ll be doing a fair bit of for The Hobbit, in terms both of using bits from elsewhere in the films (see this scene for an example) and of creating whole new scenes (for example, the all-new prologue featured in the teaser trailer).

The editing process itself is fairly straightforward, and is in fact pretty much finished; after the picture’s locked, I’ll need to do some work to make sure the colour grading and sound mix all balance, and add in a handful of VFX, but that shouldn’t take too long. In the first post below is a list of changes intended for the edit.
 

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Current changes planned for the edit, in chronological order:


  • Added custom vanity plates
  • The Scott Pilgrim vs. the Animation short runs before the feature (edited to remove titles and one use of the word “retarded”)
  • Added custom retro “Feature Presentation” card
  • Added scene of Scott meeting Knives
  • Added in-scene OT.com, FE.org and Roccondil Rínon credits and my name to editor credit in opening titles
  • Added brief scene of Knives catching the bus home
  • Cut another use of “retard” (at this point, I’ve managed to cut it mid-shot, but I may try to do something a little more creative)
  • Extra lines from Sandra & Monique and Julie at Julie’s party
  • Extended version of package delivery scene
  • Extended/alternative version of first date scene, including added snow FX
  • Extended “morning after” scene
  • Reincorporated original song by Crash & the Boys “We Hate You, Please Die”, and additional business for the band
  • Extended song “Garbage Truck”
  • Added short gag with Evil Ex #1 having to introduce himself twice
  • Added short bedroom gag after the first Evil Ex fight
  • Deleted Scott’s inane comment about “being allowed to date outside your race or whatever”.*
  • Added a few lines at the castle
  • Added “Envy’s jealous” gag
  • Extended/alternative freak-out/hair dye scene for Knives
  • Added “even briefly-er” line from the comic
  • Added Nega-Scott’s appearance at Lee’s Palace
  • Extended Clash At Demonhead song “Black Sheep” (need to find some extra footage for this; there’s some screen test footage of Brie Larson lip syncing on the blu ray but it doesn’t match well enough. Might even see if I can dig up some location footage from the real Lee’s Palace.)
  • Slightly extended backstage confrontation scene
  • Added Envy & Ramona’s “crummy way to end things” exchange
  • Extended Pizza Pizza scene
  • Added Nega-Scott’s appearance at the after-party
  • Added a couple of bits of business to the Roxy fight (eg. “Or possibly his feet!”)
  • Added intro subtitle for Gideon
  • Extended exchange between Scott and Knives after the Katayanagi fight
  • Extended breakup (using footage from the original ending)
  • Extended “Ramona” song
  • Extended scene with Scott walking in on Wallace and Chris (twice)
  • Restored Knives’ cut line about “advanced American slut technology”
  • Extended afterlife scene

I’m not sure whether to muck with the credits yet, but I do have a few ideas. There’s some very cute screen test footage on the blu ray which could potentially be used for video cast credits, although it isn’t complete: Aubrey Plaza and Anna Kendrick are absent entirely, as are all the Evil Exes save for Mae Whitman. I’m far from wedded to the idea, but I’ll have a bit more of a poke around on the blu ray and see if I can’t dig up something that would fit. Other ideas include:

  • Restoring the full version of “Ramona” by Beck
  • Recreating the “serial killer” ending concept considered for the movie but never filmed, as a mid-credits stinger (would need to find someone who can do a convincing Canadian newsreader impression)
  • Making use of the “Summertime” music video, which can’t be incorporated into the film proper, but the song already plays over the credits.

* I know Scott is meant to be kind of a dick, but there’s a difference between being kind of a dick and casually racist. Same goes for Kim’s two uses of “retard”, already cut — it’s true to life for how hipsters speak, but it’s unnecessary. It may be considered ironic, given I’m reincorporating a few elements that were originally cut for rating reasons, but this is more for characterisation purposes — I think the original line makes him too unlikeable. Michael Cera does play it well; Scott does appear to realise partway through the sentence that it’s inappropriate. But Knives’ response, “I don’t care,” really doesn’t help. I’ve managed to edit it such that she interrupts him at the word “date”, which serves the additional purpose of giving her a little more agency.

I also have in mind a handful of minor edits to existing scenes — often as little as half a second here or there. It feels somewhat sacrilegious to do this to Edgar Wright, of all directors, but there are parts where I feel the chemistry between Cera and Mary Elizabeth Winstead needs a little tightening, and with the shifting of a line here, the deletion of a pause there, I may be able to improve it. We’ll see.
 

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Very nice artwork you have there. I've watched @"sportsman"'s extended edition a number of times and for being editing in Windows Movie Maker, it ain't bad. But it's in dire need of an update as there is some noticeable cuts and colour differences between deleted and final scenes.

Looking forward to this edit and anything else in the future. 

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Scott Pilgrim, a film I'm surprised isn't fanedited more often. Your ideas look pretty solid!
 

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Excellent, if someone else does this before I finally get around to doing it I can have all the benefit of it existing without having to do the work :D (I've been meaning to do a kitchen-sink extended edition of Scott Pilgrim for years, but other projects have gotten prioritised)

Re: the couple of lines you are trimming/snipping - my take on Scott in particular is that he's not just kind of a dick, he's very specifically unselfaware about it. But it's your edit so do whatever feels right - if it makes a scene flow better, then everyone wins :)

Since a lot of the alternate and deleted shots are SD on the Blu-ray, are you going to upscale and aim for 720p or downscale the end result to SD? (I'm also excited to see what you can do for the colour grading on the deleted scenes, since learning how to do that properly is one of the main things that deterred me from tackling this project myself)
 

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Sorry for not posting any updates along the way with this! It's 99% done. Most of the edits mentioned above have now been done, and the colour grading and matching is complete. Only the Lee's Palace scene is still unfinished, and I think I'll probably just have to restore something approaching the theatrical version; there just isn't enough footage available anywhere I could find to include the whole song.

I still like the idea of the "serial killer" post-credits ending, but I've lost contact with the guy I had in mind for it. If anyone's interested and can do a Canadian newsreader impression, I have a script ready to go, but I'm not going to hold up the edit any longer for the sake of a stinger gag. The "Summertime" music video will take its place.

I'll be tinkering with Lee's Palace over the next week or so, and after that it'll just be a matter of putting together the titles and a Blu-Ray ISO.
 

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Nice! I've designed a cover of my own (my first attempts at contributing to the fan edit community were cover designs, so I'd naturally do them for my own edits), but I love the poster art you've used.

Barring any unforeseens, this'll go out at Easter. That gives me plenty of wiggle room to polish off the last few rough edges. Meanwhile, I'm putting together a trailer that should be ready to go up in a few days.
 

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I'm very much looking forward to this!  I've always wanted an extended cut with a few tweaks here and there.
 

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Bit of news: the edit may be delayed, because it looks like I’ve found someone who’s keen and able to do the stinger gag after all. We’ll see how we go with recording and assembling it, but I (obviously) won’t rush things for the sake of meeting the Easter date. I also have no idea how long things may take with getting Academy approval, which I haven’t approached anyone about yet.

A few other notes, just while I think of it:
  • I’m restoring the original music cues to the cartoon (they were replaced with tracks from the movie itself on the DVD release).
  • I’ll be extending the credits to include credits for the cartoon and for the edit, including “creative consultant” credits for people who’ve commented on here.
  • I’ve created my own animated FE.org vanity plate; I know others have done this, but I had a particular concept I wanted to try. You can see a few seconds of it in the trailer; I’ll make the full thing available alongside the release of the edit.
  • I’ll do a raw video release first, followed by a Blu Ray with extras. Said extras will include, at a minimum, subtitles, a trivia track, an alternative “clean” dialogue track, the Honest Trailer, and an updated teaser for The Hobbit. I’m considering including the original “all for nothing ending” as an alternative option, if anyone wants it. Depending on timing, the Blu Ray may also include a first look at my upcoming Matrix edit.
 

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If you want a pair of eyes for feedback or help with anything, let me know. I like this movie a lot and your edit sounds like fun.
 

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Is that a 3D render of a TV? It looks incredible great, I love the little ACME branding at the bottom as well as the alliteration with "Rock 'N' Roller's Rampage of Revenge". I'm really looking forward to this so I can replace my copy of Sportman's edit, which may of been the first and last approved edit to be made in Windows Movie Maker.
 

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Yep, I modelled the TV myself in Blender, which I originally started teaching myself for the purposes of creature effects for The Hobbit. I stole the ACME logo from here — although does it count as stealing if it's free in the first place? The script for the stinger is written and sent to the Canadian friend who's recording it for me, and I'm putting together all the B-roll stock footage and motion graphics for it now, as well as effects to make it look like analog video. I'll actually be rendering the news report out as a flat video, and then importing that video into Blender to play on the TV screen so I can get the distortions and reflections right, and rendering it out from there.
 

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Stinger narration is recorded. Not sure how long the VFX work will take from here, but it's all on me now. :p
 
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