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I have to agree 100% with boon here. yes, when you release something you are open to criticism, but I think elbarto but it perfectly when he compared it to a school grade. 50%??? gimme a break. That is a MAJOR fail, and I consider this bullshit. Way too much work and care went into it. And the reviews show.boon23 said:In all fairness to you: you simply deserve better from a fellow faneditor. And this is my opinion.
Are people entitled to their opinions? Oh yes. But others are also entitled to not like their opinion at all and react accordingly. Good thing is, we are most of all a great community of nice people here.
Uncanny Antman said:I do that too. Whilst it takes a lot of effort and talent to make nice menus and cover art and extras, they aren't what is improtant to me as an audience. Each person brings their own criteria to a rating.elbarto1 said:I gather he just rates the main film in a general score.
Uncanny Antman said:Did you do the edit for yourself, or for other people? I mean this as an honest question, not to antagonize. It's a cliché but as long as you do the edit for yourself, then it really doesn't matter how people rate it.elbarto1 said:this edit took me 10 months and despite the complete inability to appeal to everyone, I figured the craftsmanship, coupled with the bonus materials and DVD authoring at least accounts for a C-.
Nah, I'm good - I just hope this thread doesnt drive a wedge between me, mollo or anyone else. I meant no disrespect, only to voice my frustration and I assume he meant the same.Uncanny Antman said:Don't be down, ElBarto.
boon23 said:In all fairness to you: you simply deserve better from a fellow faneditor. And this is my opinion.
Are people entitled to their opinions? Oh yes. But others are also entitled to not like their opinion at all and react accordingly. Good thing is, we are most of all a great community of nice people here.
zeppelinrox said:It really is very subjective to the reviewer as to how much weight he wants to put on different aspects of the fanedit.
Compared to the orginal (better or worse), technical stuff, plot holes, editing choices, expectations, etc...
But I think it starts off with whether I even liked the original.
If I hated the original, it's very unlikely that I'd watch a fanedit of it.
zeppelinrox said:Personally, I don't see how Adywan's SW gets such massive attention.
I like star wars, but I'm not THAT hard core about it.
Besides, if memory serves, Darth Editous' version seems to have the best video quality of all the EP IV's that I've seen.
Perhaps I even enjoyed that more than Adywan's.
Uncanny Antman said:That's the part I agree with...if you don't want to hear any negative reactions, don't release it. If you only want praise, keep it to yourself. (Even family and friends can't be counted on all the time for blind praise. Believe me! )boon23 said:This is always just partly right. If you keep it to yourself, you can be proud of it for yourself. But as soon as you release it, you hand it out and become vulnerable to criticism.
Uncanny Antman said:Apologies if it seems like I was tring to start an argument. It was really not my intention.
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ThrowgnCpr said:I have to agree 100% with boon here. yes, when you release something you are open to criticism, but I think elbarto but it perfectly when he compared it to a school grade. 50%??? gimme a break. That is a MAJOR fail, and I consider this bullshit. Way too much work and care went into it. And the reviews show.boon23 said:In all fairness to you: you simply deserve better from a fellow faneditor. And this is my opinion.
Are people entitled to their opinions? Oh yes. But others are also entitled to not like their opinion at all and react accordingly. Good thing is, we are most of all a great community of nice people here.
Don't get me wrong, criticism is positive, but lets be realistic. I am all for treat others as you want to be treated yourself. clearly this was no F.
boon23 said:But I am pretty sure that it's just nice if faneditors treat each other with the utmost possible respect. Just my 2 cents.
boon23 said:you deserve more for your efforts, especially from a fellow faneditor and academy member.
elbarto1 said:this just feels like the reviewer didnt "get" my intentions, didnt like what I did and cast off a quick negative review. I dont claim to say "you cant do that" I would just like to know more about the issues than - you did it wrong. what was wrong about it?
There is no such thing as "ONLY". You do what you do and when done in public, people will react to it. See, I ONLY want to point out that this thing follows you for a long time now, Mollo. Your way to rate fanedits is not seen as appropriate in so many cases. It brought you in trouble before and it is again. Now is everybody else wrong and you are right? Will you send me another pm to correct a rating like you did so many times before?Mollo said:Now I know Elbarto1 is a nice guy and you want to show your support for him and his work and show your disapproval of me and my opinion. But I am ONLY commenting on the work.
this, Sir, shows great spirit and is one of the hardest things to do. Thanks for writing it and I am looking forward to our future.Mollo said:I need to learn from this experience and think harder before writing a less than positive review. Sorry to all concerned, especially Elbarto1.
elbarto1 said:ThrowgnCpr said:I have to agree 100% with boon here. yes, when you release something you are open to criticism, but I think elbarto but it perfectly when he compared it to a school grade. 50%??? gimme a break. That is a MAJOR fail, and I consider this bullshit. Way too much work and care went into it. And the reviews show.boon23 said:In all fairness to you: you simply deserve better from a fellow faneditor. And this is my opinion.
Are people entitled to their opinions? Oh yes. But others are also entitled to not like their opinion at all and react accordingly. Good thing is, we are most of all a great community of nice people here.
Don't get me wrong, criticism is positive, but lets be realistic. I am all for treat others as you want to be treated yourself. clearly this was no F.
I thank you for having my back but I refuse to call a review that was written and rated "bullshit" (yes I called it a 'shit score' above because 50%=shit in blind taste test review land) but I do believe there is a rhyme and a reason to it and I respect him enough (as a fellow editor) to listen rather than yell.
Again, I hope that this is regarded as constructive because I dont want mollo or any other user to feel that their reviews will be attacked if they are less than favorable, thats not what I am about - I like the freedoms we have here and want to hear about why you liked or disliked something. I just hope we are still friends at the end of the day
The one and only time I had a real problem with a rating was about one of my dusty silent Star Wars and I used my right to rate my own edit to balance the poor and unfair (from my point of view) rating.Uncanny Antman said:It's still funny to me that an editor would ever PM a mod about a poor rating. I mean...is it just to complain, or to have them 'do something about this travesty'? :-?