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booshman said:This show is really hot and miss. There was some good stuff early on but they are losing me lately.
The latest episode with the circus say a new low. The only character had any interest in watching was young Bruce and his meeting with the board at Wayne Enterprises. The main plot with Gordon was awful and the reveal at the end with the villain was obvious and terribly done. The Penguin plot was meh, the stuff with Selina, Ivy and Barbara pointless, and i am sick to death of Fish.
With quality like this on Gotham and the nose dive Arrow has taken I'm going to soon run out of things to watch.
Frantic Canadian said:I was thinking of calling it quits with Gotham as well, until I saw the preview for last week's episode revealing that The Joker would finally be introduced. I have absolutely no interest in the Barbara storyline, I like The Penguin but I really don't care about the mob aspect, and I cannot stand Fish Mooney. I'm only interest in the exploits of Jim and Bullock, and the Bruce Wayne storyline. Everything else bores me. But get rid of Fish and it'll probably improve the show. Only 5 episodes left this season though so I think I might as well just stick around and finish it off.
asterixsmeagol said:Fish is killing the show for me. The actress isn't bad but her dialogue is painful. If they would have simply used her to introduce Cobblepot and then have him replace her I might have liked her better.
Bruno HellerWe front-loaded [the show with iconic characters], which we had to do, both for story purposes and marketing purposes. We had to let people know itâs not just a hum-drum police procedural, itâs about these larger than life characters. If you do that you canât just say, âHereâs one larger-than-life character, now wait for next season.â Once we introduced those initial charactersâPenguin, Riddler, Ivy, Selinaâthen weâve slowed down with those aspects and weâre bringing in those iconic D.C characters in a much more measured way, which was always the intention. You have to have that amount of spice in the show to make it pop and different. Once the wheels are turning, itâs much easier to bring those characters in in subtle, organic ways. Thatâs the plan, anyway.
Solid11 said:
Actually I believe he was saying that the characters like Harvey Dent and Scarecrow are what makes the show pop - the rare big names - not the regular weekly appearances. (Fish didn't exist before, and Barbara is almost never shown in the comics - since she makes Gordon a better character dead - as evidenced by the show... haha)booshman said:What is this guy talking about? They front-loaded it and have continued to heap in more characters and references with every episode. It can be an interesting show without relying on pre-existing lore/ characters/ plots. If this guy thinks that Fish and Barbara are making the show "pop", he needs a rethink.