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Best vocal isolation method?

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Hello everyone, I'm ThatGuyWhoEdits, long term lurker & first time joining. So, I've done my fair share of audio editing in Adobe Audition as that's my go to in extract vocals however with that said is there by any chance a better solution in getting cleaner vocals without the original BG music bleeding through after isolation? I ask cause I've seen many edits that have completely removed the original BG music like certain star wars edits & I want to accomplish that style.
 
Hello everyone, I'm ThatGuyWhoEdits, long term lurker & first time joining. So, I've done my fair share of audio editing in Adobe Audition as that's my go to in extract vocals however with that said is there by any chance a better solution in getting cleaner vocals without the original BG music bleeding through after isolation? I ask cause I've seen many edits that have completely removed the original BG music like certain star wars edits & I want to accomplish that style.
Are you using the surround audio? If not it may be difficult to do so. However I'm no expert
 
If you're lucky, the center channel with have isolated dialogue. If not, and you have the soundtrack, you can sync the song to the movie audio and then use an inverse waveform of the music to cancel out the music from the movie. That only works if the soundtrack isn't faded in and out of the actual movie, though.
 
...you can sync the song to the movie audio and then use an inverse waveform of the music to cancel out the music from the movie. That only works if the soundtrack isn't faded in and out of the actual movie, though.

<mind blown>

I know what I'm trying later.
 
This is a big topic and not all methods have been discussed. Inverting is the method with the cleanest result but if also the most difficult to do, as the inverted waveform you create must be identical to the theatrical music, same volume, same fades, same recording and same mastering (remastered music won't be mixed the same and won't invert cleanly).

Anyway, check this thread, especially the last five to ten pages, I went over a lot of the methods a few years ago, and since then there are new AI tools that are easy and have pretty good results usually. All the recommendations are in the big thread :

 
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