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Let me preface by saying, I love comic book movies. More specifically DC Comic Book movies.... Superman, Batman... these guys are gods to me. I LOVED Batman Begins... it is the closest in spirit of any of the Batman movies. Batman Returns is my second favorite, it is dark and violent and moody. Just as Batman should be. The first Batman is excellent, though I think it need more Bat and less Jack. Batman and Robin just sucks. And Batman Forever, well it always left me with mixed feelings.
Batman Forever is a tough movie to edit, there is no doubt about it. There is so much wrong with it, it is hard to know where to start. It has no clear focus... is it a comedy or dark thriller? The way over the top (and in my mind) horrible performances from Carey and Jones steal the spotlight from Batman's psychological dimilema. But there is lots of good character stuff in the movie too involving Bruce and Dick.
What I really liked about this edit are the returned deleted scenes, they added weight and impact to Batman's storyline which was sorely missing from the original cut. Also like the new "it never ends" closing. These scenes have been very well reinserted, and though they are of a lesser video quality, the muted tones of this edit makes it less noticeable and works well. :smile:
But beyond that, the movie still does not work for me. I think lots more could have been cut, especially from the scenes with villians. Less is more. I think by reinserting the scences about Bruce and the Red Book, the rest of the movie should have been cut to keep as much as the focus on Bruce/Batman and his journey, and keep the villans to absolute storyline requirement minimum.
Techically, I think is an excellent edit! I just think the editor could have been more bold with his storyline cuts. After just watching Paulisdead's Forever cut (Dark Knight), I think the perfect edit would be a merging of these two edits. Dark Knight sleek,trimmed storyline edit (along with all new amazing soundtrack) and Scapegoat's great character developement deleted scenes restoration.
So on a techincial scale, THUMBS WAY UP. :smile:
But on the storyline edit, what was done was very good but I think it could gone further and bolder.
So a mixed review for me.
Batman Forever is a tough movie to edit, there is no doubt about it. There is so much wrong with it, it is hard to know where to start. It has no clear focus... is it a comedy or dark thriller? The way over the top (and in my mind) horrible performances from Carey and Jones steal the spotlight from Batman's psychological dimilema. But there is lots of good character stuff in the movie too involving Bruce and Dick.
What I really liked about this edit are the returned deleted scenes, they added weight and impact to Batman's storyline which was sorely missing from the original cut. Also like the new "it never ends" closing. These scenes have been very well reinserted, and though they are of a lesser video quality, the muted tones of this edit makes it less noticeable and works well. :smile:
But beyond that, the movie still does not work for me. I think lots more could have been cut, especially from the scenes with villians. Less is more. I think by reinserting the scences about Bruce and the Red Book, the rest of the movie should have been cut to keep as much as the focus on Bruce/Batman and his journey, and keep the villans to absolute storyline requirement minimum.
Techically, I think is an excellent edit! I just think the editor could have been more bold with his storyline cuts. After just watching Paulisdead's Forever cut (Dark Knight), I think the perfect edit would be a merging of these two edits. Dark Knight sleek,trimmed storyline edit (along with all new amazing soundtrack) and Scapegoat's great character developement deleted scenes restoration.
So on a techincial scale, THUMBS WAY UP. :smile:
But on the storyline edit, what was done was very good but I think it could gone further and bolder.
So a mixed review for me.