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Advice and Help For New Fan Editors

This is a collection of advice based on the experience of many fan editors, who graciously have spent their time putting together some very valuable tips for those just starting out.

Please, take this document seriously! It will help you a great deal, and also understand how the fanedit.org community works. If you follow the advice and guidelines presented herein, your fanediting journey should be much more enjoyable and successful!


Part I - Welcome to fanedit.org!
This is an introduction to this fan editing community, including what kind of expectations we have for fan edits supported by this site, and what we expect of YOU.

Part II - Advice for how to be a happy and successful Fan Editor
This is a collection of useful advice that serves as your overall framework on how to approach fan editing. It includes help on understanding how our community works, and how you can make a smooth and positive entrance into it.

Part III - Advice on how to get your first edit approved
This part provides advice on making it easier to get your first edit approved, including the top 10 reasons why first time submissions don't get approved.

Part IV - Helpful threads and references
This is a collection of useful threads for more in depth help and information on topics such as workflow and technical issues. Also, this section provides links/references to all the sources used that contributed to this document.




PART I: Welcome to fanedit.org!

There are a lot of people worldwide who create fanedits, because they are annoyed by this or that scene or character or plot development. Or they want to remix some of their favorite movies. The digital age makes movie editing quite easy on an amateur level. Basic tools are available for free or quite cheap. Many people create fanedits just for themselves, which also means that they can easily forgive inconsistencies and flaws of any kind. But that is not what fanedit.org is about.

On this website, fanedits are presented as quality works of art. And to qualify for that, they need to be beyond amateur level. To achieve this, a faneditor needs devotion, care, patience, technological knowledge and creativity. The goal is to create a new, professional and entertaining movie that an audience can enjoy.

While this might sound like a daunting task, the members of this site are dedicated to helping you achieve this goal! As long as you follow some simple rules and strive to be a good member of our community, you should find lots of support as you work towards completing and releasing that first edit.

1. WHAT SHOULD I DO FIRST?

It is imperative that you first read, understand, and follow the rules of this site. There are only a handful of rules, but they must be followed or else you will get yourself into trouble. These rules are available at the top of every page of the site, so you always can have one click access to them in case you want to brush up on them!

Finally, it is absolutely essential that you also read, understand, and follow the Own the Source Rule, also available at the top of every page of this site. There are absolutely no exceptions to following this rule. Our community does not support, condone, or promote piracy or illegal activities in any way!

2. OK, I understand The Rules and I’m game to to follow them. NOW WHAT?

It’s simple. Become a member of the community.

We’re not here just to show off how cool we think we are. Fanedit.org is a community of passionate movie fans. Contribute to the site as a student first in order to become a better faneditor later. Learn first, before you fail.

The love you take is equal to the love you make. If you’re only here to promote your own fanedit, you may find only a few people interested in it. If you take interest in other projects and topics, people may start taking more interest in yours.

Keep in mind that fanediting is primarily a fun hobby, a way for the Average Joe to be creative and have fun telling new stories with old movies. Nobody is doing this as a profession, we do it because it’s fun, not because we want praise and awards. Some of us may have better skills or software, some may even be professionals in the industry, but we are all here to share our mutual love for movies and storytelling. And that is what this site is suppose to be about.... SHARING.

Don’t worry about reviews or ratings. Don’t concern yourself with whether or not you win Favorite Edit of the Month. Spend time on the forums or in the chat room getting to know your fellow FE brothers.

Also, you should make sure to present yourself with the appropriate level of professionalism when posting in forums, especially when you are new. While the general atmosphere around here is easy-going, it is always best to start off by putting your best foot forward. Get to know us, and let us get to know you. The aforementioned rules give advice on how best to approach posting on the forums. Another great guide to help you with this is TV's Frink's Guide to Sensible Posting (also available at the top of almost every forum page).

3. HOW DO I GET MY FANEDIT APPROVED?

Once you feel your fanedit is ready, fill out the First-Time Faneditor Submission Form. An Administrator will contact you and it will get reviewed by a member of the Academy. Keep in mind we’re all volunteers here, so it may not get reviewed as fast as you want it to. Be patient, and while you wait, become a member of the community.

Once reviewed, the Academy member (or Admin) will let you know if it’s approved or more work needs to be done. Take it from there.

4. HOW DO I GET HELP?

If you’re not sure of what to do, re-read The Rules or Using This Site or The FAQ. Your question may be answered there.

If you still need help with something, you can either make a thread or send a Private Message to an Admin. Depends on what you need help with. Use your judgment and be sure to read up on existing threads before starting your own.





PART II: Advice for how to be a happy and successful Fan Editor

1. LIMIT THE NUMBER OF THREADS YOU CREATE UNTIL YOU HAVE AN APPROVED EDIT.

When first starting out, it can be tempting to create new threads for all your different fan editing ideas. This is perfectly understandable, and we welcome your enthusiasm. HOWEVER, it is important to understand the proper place for these threads. As a first time editor who has not yet had an approved release, it is recommended to limit yourself to just one Fanedits IN-THE-WORKS thread to help keep your focus on that all-important first edit. You can also use the Fanedit Ideas forum if you want to have one or two ideas publicly percolating. In any event, there are now rules in place for the number of threads you may have in both these forums, which is documented here: Rule Regarding In-The-Works Threads. Make sure you read — and heed — this rule.

2. READ UP ON THE TECHNICAL FORUMS.

The technical side of fanediting isn't the easiest thing. It can be very difficult at times. It doesn't have to be, though.

If you're having a technical problem with your edit, do not immediately start a new thread about it. Read through the existing threads in the Technical Forum. Your question may already be answered there. (Also, See PART IV below for some especially helpful threads!)

Oh, and please never release a .WMV fanedit. Just don't do it, ok? mmkay?

3. WATCH AS MANY FAN EDITS AS YOU CAN.

(Of course, you need to own the original films to watch a fanedit. See: Own the Source Rule.)

What makes a good fanedit? What makes a fanedit different from the original movie? What types of fanedits are really popular? What types of fanedits do people not pay much attention to? Has ______ idea already been done?

All these questions can be answered by watching fanedits already available and seeing how well people have responded to them. Plus, if you've never seen a fanedit, or only saw one or two, trying to make your own fanedit will be a rougher road.

4. BE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS AND CRITICISM.

Not everybody is going to love your edit. Some may give suggestions on how to make it better. Some may criticize it. Be willing for this happen.

If you are unable to accept negative comments or critiques of your work, you aren’t ready to publicly display your works.

5. TAKE YOUR TIME. BE PATIENT.

Your edit may not get watched right away. Don't get discouraged or upset about it.

"Fanediting is a time consuming process. Once you get the hang of your editing software and all the steps involved you can eventually get projects completed at quite a quick pace BUT slow and steady is always better in my opinion.

Speaking for myself, when I first got started in fanediting I was super enthusiastic. I was lucky enough to recruit a forum member as my mentor and along the way garnered knowledge and advice from other members as well. But I had an idea and I was anxious for the world to see it! I couldn't wait. But a wise man once said "Aim for perfection." So it was a struggle (and still is) to take my time, take a step back, and not settle.

You only release your edit once (unless its not initially approved). So there is no point in rushing only to put out a fanedit that in  retrospect has you saying "ah I wish I had done this, or left out that etc." There is no point in being lazy. For as many kind and generous critics on here we have plenty of harsh critics. And while you can't please everyone you can certainly avoid getting chewed out for subpar technical quality of your edit by not settling and being patient.

I have been a victim of this myself. There are at least one of two things in each one of my edits which make me cringe and stand out as instances of "shoulda, woulda, coulda."

Learn from my mistakes!" - Gatos

6. BE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST AN EDITOR.

Here two examples, both based off real members (who won't be named).

Member A had been here since 2008. He contributed a lot to forums over the years and made a lot of friends. In 2011 he released an edit he had been working on for a while. The edit was approved a day after being submitted.

Member B had also been a member here for a while, but never contributed much to forums. He mainly discussed his own edits he was making. None of his edits were ever approved, due to technical issues. Then one day he got fed up with nobody paying attention to him and blamed the site for not caring about him and his fanedits. I have no idea where he is now.

We aren't saying that being an active forum member will automatically get your edit approved. And reversely, we aren't saying that if you're not an active member, your edits will never be approved.

But, being a good member of the community can help you along the way.

In other words: "Contribute to the site as a student first in order to become a better faneditor later." - geminigod




PART III: Advice on Getting Your First Edit Approved

From Jorge's Rules of Fanediting€ -

1. YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYONE.

Fanedits come from movies and just like movies, some will like them and some won't.
Learn to live with it.

2. IF YOU'RE DOING IT FOR YOURSELF, PLEASE YOURSELF.

No need for explanations. Just do what you please. Go for it. Put a smile on your own face bro!
Yeah, you are that good. Don't stop, don't ever stop!

3. IF YOU'RE DOING IT FOR AN AUDIENCE, PLEASE THE AUDIENCE.

Uh oh. Trouble. You've now entered territory that we are all familiar with.

We have watched movies and TV all of our lives and the grammar of cinema is well known to us. Having it all make sense is not easy. If it was easy, every Hollywood release would be a hit. But we know they aren't.

When you share it, the fanedit has to work on another level. Because now you're competing with the skills and talent of Hollywood. Yeah it has to be that good. The editing and story telling has to be seamless and unnoticeable and make sense. What is obvious to you might not make much sense to Average Joe.

So you really have to edit with an audience in mind. Classic faneditors like ADigitalMan, CBB, TMBTM and Uncanny Antman can do it. So should you.

4. DON'T RUSH IT.

SLOW DOWN.

Check your edit. Check your DVD. Check your AVI / MP4 / MKV. Check the mix, check the AR, check for flash frames, check for bad edits, check for bad audio edits, check for abrupt cuts, check for plot holes, check for errors in logic, check for interlace problems, check for errors in chronology, check, check, check.

And when you're done, bored and tired, get a good night's sleep, wake up to a hardy breakfast and check again! Walk away for a few days (sometimes much longer), look at it with fresh eyes.

If you repeatedly rush, and repeatedly put out inferior first products you will develop a bad rep fast.

This isn't a race. First impressions are the lasting impression.


From Neglify's Advice to New Editors€ -

5. GET YOUR EDIT PREVIEWED BEFORE YOU SUBMIT IT.

Getting your edit viewed by someone else is essential. This is typically called a "workprint" and is an essential part of every fan editor's workflow, even for the most experienced editors.

A fresh pair of eyes can catch errors you may not have noticed. It's better to spend a lot of time tweaking the edit before it's submitted. You don't want the edit disapproved because of errors that could have been easily fixed.

6. CREATE INTEREST IN YOUR EDIT, BUT DON'T OVERDO IT.

Make a trailer for your edit. Make some cover art. But if nobody responds as enthusiastically as you'd want, don't worry about it! Don’t get mad if it’s not getting the love you want. Move on to something else, life’s too short to worry about what people on the internet think about you.

7. IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED...LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES!

Did your first edit have a lot of technical errors? Read up on the Technical Forums and learn how to perfect your skills. Take a step back and focus on mastering the basics of editing before you attempt to rotoscope Jar Jar out of every frame of Episode I.

Did the edit's plot not make sense? Work on telling a story without confusing the audience.

Making the same mistakes might make one think you're a lazy editor. We don't want that. While we don't expect every fanedit to be 100% perfection, we want good quality edits, both editing and story-wise.

8. BE CONTENT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE MADE.

"Remember fanedits are not for commercial gain, they are a way to express yourself. So never worry if some people might not like the changes you are doing - there have been a lot of times when drastic changes have actually been greeted with enthusiasm (even though they might not have been if the editor just announced his decisions).

Bottom line is that you are first and foremost working on something you should like. So if there is something that has always bugged you, you are in the position to remove it.

Will it upset people? Maybe, but who cares? Who knows maybe people opposed to your changes are actually just a minority and the other large part will appreciate a bold cut." - Sunarep


Lastly:

9. TEN COMMON REASONS FANEDITS GET DISAPPROVED.

1) Bad audio transitions. Sloppy transitions or abrupt audio cutting takes you out of the movie experience quickly.
2) Sloppy visual editing. Flash frames, abrupt cuts, fades and/or dissolves that look unnatural.
3) Bad video quality. The tech forums are full of useful information on how to properly convert your DVDs/BDs to usable editing files. Making a fanedit from a low quality source (such as a 700MB xvid AVI you made with some random free program) is a surefire way to be disapproved.
4) Audio/Video sync issues.
5) Plot holes created by the editor.
6) Amateur editing. Don’t use Comic Sans for your titles. Learn how to make good looking DVD menus. Don’t submit a .wmv file please.
7) Unbalanced audio levels. Example: Adding music that is way too loud and takes you out of the movie.
8) Laziness.
9) Illogical storytelling issues created by the editor.
10) Having a bad attitude. I hate to say it, but if you’re a jerk in the forums this may be a factor when your edit is watched.





PART IV: Helpful Threads and References

1. WORKFLOW / TECHNICAL ADVICE

Captain Khajit's Basic Guide to Decoding Video and Audio
Gemini's Start-to-Finish HD Conversion Editing & Authoring Guide
ThrownCpr's Guide to Prepping an HD Edit in Vegas : Ripping & Converting From Blu-Ray
Captain Khajilt's Basic Guide to Encoding With HCenc
Boon's Guide to Fan Editing With Sony Vegas

2. GENERAL ADVICE

The Very Basic Guide to Fan Editing
The Rules of Fanediting: Remixed by Jorge
Advice to New Editors
How To Make A Good Fanedit (aka The Joy of Fanediting)
Fanediting Examples (Before and After)
Fanediting Pearls of Wisdom

3. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

The following members provided primary source material that contributed to the creation of this guide. Ultimately, it is because of them that this exists!

Neglify
Seciors
Remixed by Jorge
Gatos
Sunarep
Geminigod
Bionic Bob
Dwight Fry
 
Just a quick note that many of the links in this article are broken. Useful article though. 
Thanks.
 
Agreed, but sad that the links are gone for this new editor. The community still seems robust, though.
 
The Great Subtracter said:
Agreed, but sad that the links are gone for this new editor. The community still seems robust, though.



Unless/until those links are fixed, you can probably find them using the forum's search page. You can search by thread title.
 
This is an old ass thread but I wanted to reach out and ask about audio.

I am a novice to this. I have only ever worked with stereo audio. And that has been compounded by the fact I love editing music so much, which I do naturally in stereo. I just never thought about it until recently that I have started several of my film fanedits with only stereo sound😥. I'm so far in and done though.. How much will this effect my edits? Can I even submit a film to the academy in stereo sound?

I'm working on a cut of Godzilla KOTM.
 
Stereo is perfectily fine :) The key is that it needs to be seemless. That is usually easier to achieve with a surround mix, but there are a number of editors who release stereo audio edits.
 
Thanks for that info. Good to know. I am working my best on the audio. As I progress in learning this craft, audio quality is something I'll be focusing on more and more.
 
Apologies if this sound hopelessly naïve, but is there any consensus as to whether an editor should provide content warnings on a project's IFDB page if they feel that it may be warranted?

I am thinking of situations where somebody finds an edit based on material they are unfamiliar with and watches it before the official version, as I have done myself in a few instances (not before making the necessary purchases!) Appreciating that the visitors to this site are almost certainly entirely adult, it is still possible that there are those who would welcome forward knowledge of whether what they are planning on watching contains any strong content.

While this is obvious (one would hope) for films such as Dawn of the Dead or Boogie Nights, I have an edit in the pipeline that is based on a film rated BBFC 18 but as far as I am aware was never submitted for MPAA classification, if someone in the States didn't check the IMDB or elsewhere they might get an unpleasant surprise when coming to a scene towards the end that I myself must shield my eyes from! Of course one could simply not continue watching, but I might feel cheated somewhat if unable to finish something that was otherwise enjoyable!
 
Personally, I think it's up to the viewer to research the edit. I did get quite the shock when I watched War of the Stars and people's heads exploded. Yikes! It's without a doubt one of the most impressive edits in what it accomplishes, but I could have done a bit more reading.
 
Apologies if this sound hopelessly naïve, but is there any consensus as to whether an editor should provide content warnings on a project's IFDB page if they feel that it may be warranted?

I am thinking of situations where somebody finds an edit based on material they are unfamiliar with and watches it before the official version, as I have done myself in a few instances (not before making the necessary purchases!) Appreciating that the visitors to this site are almost certainly entirely adult, it is still possible that there are those who would welcome forward knowledge of whether what they are planning on watching contains any strong content.

While this is obvious (one would hope) for films such as Dawn of the Dead or Boogie Nights, I have an edit in the pipeline that is based on a film rated BBFC 18 but as far as I am aware was never submitted for MPAA classification, if someone in the States didn't check the IMDB or elsewhere they might get an unpleasant surprise when coming to a scene towards the end that I myself must shield my eyes from! Of course one could simply not continue watching, but I might feel cheated somewhat if unable to finish something that was otherwise enjoyable!
I definitely don't think it would be a bad idea to include such information in the edit description, if you think it's for the best then I say go for it.
 
I'm new to this, but I try to use a do no harm principle when I'm editing. Whatever I do in an edit, my intention is to enhance the scene. Whatever I cut is intended to enhance flow. Sometimes when music or hits blends between scenes it can be hard to get the new transition right. Often, it involves filling the sound floor with music and muting the source clip until the unwanted sound can be faded out or removed before fading back into the dialogue track. Other times I'll use an AI service like Auphonic to try and remove the music.
 
I've seen people say that you can use the "channels" in Dolby 5.1 sound to isolate music sound effect and dialogue, but I'm not really sure what that means or how to do it. there's a lot of times in my last fan edit that that would have been useful, so I'd like to know it for the next. (I'm using Wondershare Filmora 12, btw)
 
I've seen people say that you can use the "channels" in Dolby 5.1 sound to isolate music sound effect and dialogue, but I'm not really sure what that means or how to do it. there's a lot of times in my last fan edit that that would have been useful, so I'd like to know it for the next. (I'm using Wondershare Filmora 12, btw)

"Channels" is basically referring to what's being sent to each speaker. The centre channel/speaker is usually where dialogue is sent, which means that sometimes you'll find it either free of music or with less music than other channels. When you extract the surround track properly, you can have access to each channel as a separate audio file, giving you more freedom (hopefully). But it's rarely that simple and will often require additional audio editing to achieve the desired results.

The tech forums has some guides to help with prepping for a disc for editing/extracting audio etc.
 
"Channels" is basically referring to what's being sent to each speaker. The centre channel/speaker is usually where dialogue is sent, which means that sometimes you'll find it either free of music or with less music than other channels. When you extract the surround track properly, you can have access to each channel as a separate audio file, giving you more freedom (hopefully). But it's rarely that simple and will often require additional audio editing to achieve the desired results.

The tech forums has some guides to help with prepping for a disc for editing/extracting audio etc.
Thanks for the reply. I'll take a look at the tach forums and see how I can implement it for the next edit.
 
This is awesome, thank you for sharing this info! My Edit for The Room called, "The Room: Love Conquers All" is completed, but I still have to post and get it approved before I can officially share it. This is a great thread for first-timers like me.
 
A fanedit of The Room, huh? What a story Mark.

(In all seriousness that sounds really interesting)
 
Thanks! Yeah, my Wife and I were watching the room and she said " Ya know. if this movie were played backward those two crazy kids would be happy. " So I went on a roughly 30 hours journey rewatching and editing The Room into a story about a controlling mother, and two people who, with a little bit of therapy, could be happy together. Im just putting in my forum requirements so I can submit it for review. But if you want to check it out before that, feel free to hit me up in a private message.
 
Im just putting in my forum requirements so I can submit it for review.
Part of those requirements is to make a project thread in the in the works area. Sharing more about your edit there would be the most appropriate thing to do. Please reach out if you have any trouble getting a project thread started.
 
Part of those requirements is to make a project thread in the in the works area. Sharing more about your edit there would be the most appropriate thing to do. Please reach out if you have any trouble getting a project thread started.
Thank you so much for the direction. I just want to follow the rules! Thanks again!
 
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