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A New Hope Revisited: Special Edition

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Before I ran with The Lat Jedi edit that I am doing and realized that I needed to rework some of that, I went and did an edit of Episode IV. I started out with Adywan’s version of the movie because I like his the best. Then after seeing sc38 reimagined, I wanted to (Like many people I’m sure) splice parts of that into the movie. I cut the bad CG moments and only used what flowed with the original. I didn’t just “drop” it in.
Then I figured, as long as I’m updating that, I could also splice in some Vader that I cut from Rogue One into this. (Yes, I’m working on an edit for that movie too lol but this isn’t where I plan to talk about what I’m doing there). I also have a slightly updated Death Star Explosion.
 
So the idea is that I update the movie a bit with some newer footage and a few other cuts that I will post later. I know that this will not be to a purist liking. This is just some fun I thought I would have. I like the Adywan approach of keeping the parts of the updated footage that was less offensive. This edit keeps that spirit. This isn’t a whole new movie like I did with The Last Jedi.
When adding the SC 38 footage, I am working on removing some of the PT dialog that was dubbed in. It’s fine as a stand alone fan piece, but it doesn’t work in the actual movie. So I’m re-scoring parts of it.
 

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Here is the first teaser. I'm only uploading parts of the updates so you get an idea. If I show all of it, then there would be no point in watching  :)

 

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Wow, I know it might be blasphemy, but I think this may become my preferred version of ANH!  Looking forward to it, Lantern51!
 

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Here's hoping the people behind SC38 make more along the same lines so everyone can set about using their potential footage for all the OT films.

I noticed in the first sample (0:17) there sounds like a hard cut, that or the music stops for a brief micro-second before picking up again.
 

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Zarius said:
Here's hoping the people behind SC38 make more along the same lines so everyone can set about using their potential footage for all the OT films.

I noticed in the first sample (0:17) there sounds like a hard cut, that or the music stops for a brief micro-second before picking up again.

That is exactly the feedback I need to know. Things like that get past me. Not because I don't look for them, but because my hearing has never been perfect. I have a cut that you can watch if you like and please tell me anything you feel needs to be touched up.
 

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Thanks for letting me see this edit @"lantern51" 

I really like where you're going with this, I remember watching the now banned Forceghostrecon's version and disagreed with him using the entirety of the Skariff battle of Rogue One as a "prelude" to the titles, here you use the Rogue One footage of Vader attacking the guards in a way that serves A New Hope exclusively, which was more of what I was looking for. 

There are times where the audio transitions are well executed, though there are some parts that require touching up. Time stamped examples:

00:03:10, audible hard cut
00:03: 17, audible hard cut
01:55:11 very audible Hard cut, the music just cuts off.

Fix those bits and we'll be cooking with gas...I'll look over it one last time to see if I missed anything.
 

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Zarius said:
Thanks for letting me see this edit @"lantern51" 

I really like where you're going with this, I remember watching the now banned Forceghostrecon's version and disagreed with him using the entirety of the Skariff battle of Rogue One as a "prelude" to the titles, here you use the Rogue One footage of Vader attacking the guards in a way that serves A New Hope exclusively, which was more of what I was looking for. 

There are times where the audio transitions are well executed, though there are some parts that require touching up. Time stamped examples:

00:03:10, audible hard cut
00:03: 17, audible hard cut
01:55:11 very audible Hard cut, the music just cuts off.

Fix those bits and we'll be cooking with gas...I'll look over it one last time to see if I missed anything.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! I will look and see how I can correct these. I appreciate the help!
 

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Zarius said:
Thanks for letting me see this edit @"lantern51" 

I really like where you're going with this, I remember watching the now banned Forceghostrecon's version and disagreed with him using the entirety of the Skariff battle of Rogue One as a "prelude" to the titles, here you use the Rogue One footage of Vader attacking the guards in a way that serves A New Hope exclusively, which was more of what I was looking for. 

There are times where the audio transitions are well executed, though there are some parts that require touching up. Time stamped examples:

00:03:10, audible hard cut
00:03: 17, audible hard cut
01:55:11 very audible Hard cut, the music just cuts off.

Fix those bits and we'll be cooking with gas...I'll look over it one last time to see if I missed anything.
I went back and looked at these. Maybe I was wrong to do it this way and I will look at another way of scoring these but here was my thinking at the time. 
00:03:10, audible hard cut - That was the music used for the original scene where the Star Destroyer captures the ship, so I thought it would be nice to use it there too. It just may not work with the new footage though?  

00:03: 17, audible hard cut - Again, I will double check this, but I thought this was the natural musical cut there. The tempo changed after that. Again, I may simply have picked the wrong music to score here. I will look into the music again. I wanted to keep as much of the original as I could.  

01:55:11 very audible Hard cut, the music just cuts off. That was the music from the source. I pulled the audio from The Despecialized Edition v2.5

I have other input with areas I need to fix as well. So I will look into all of these again. I am starting from scratch because (Long Story Short) I lost my editing files while working on my Last Jedi edit. So I'm doing that one from scratch as well. Let me know if you spot anything else. You are a seasoned editor, so I trust your opinion! I will post updated and any music ideas that I have to fix the listed above as I get a chance to do them.
 

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OK guys, I have a video upload here of an updated Death Star explosion and I want feedback please...

 

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lantern51 said:
OK guys, I have a video upload here of an updated Death Star explosion and I want feedback please...


BTW... I'm questioning the quality of the Death Star before it explodes. I may have made the image too large?
 

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I'd say darken the image a bit, shrink it only a small bit, and slow down the movement of the star background. Otherwise, I think it looks fantastic. Where is the explosion from?
 

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jrWHAG42 said:
I'd say darken the image a bit, shrink it only a small bit, and slow down the movement of the star background. Otherwise, I think it looks fantastic. Where is the explosion from?

Hey man! nice to hear from you again! I will try that out and see how it looks. I took the explosion from Thor Ragnarok and lined it up and cropped it.
 

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Huh, neat! I never would've guessed. You did an excellent job cutting from the Deathstar to the explosion by the way.
Also, for the record, I meant to darken the image of the Deathstar, not the entire image. I'm not sure if it came across that way or not.

As it is, the Deathstar looks like a flat image overlayed on the stars, I think the changes I mentioned would make it blend in more and give it a bit more depth. I could be wrong though!
 

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jrWHAG42 said:
Huh, neat! I never would've guessed. You did an excellent job cutting from the Deathstar to the explosion by the way.
Also, for the record, I meant to darken the image of the Deathstar, not the entire image. I'm not sure if it came across that way or not.

As it is, the Deathstar looks like a flat image overlayed on the stars, I think the changes I mentioned would make it blend in more and give it a bit more depth. I could be wrong though!

That is the actual Death Star shot from the movie before it explodes lol, not anything I created. It probably wasn't as noticeable until I made the image larger.  But I will play with it and see what I can do.
 

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lantern51 said:
That is the actual Death Star shot from the movie before it explodes lol, not anything I created. It probably wasn't as noticeable until I made the image larger.  But I will play with it and see what I can do.

Honestly, chances are that, knowing that the clip was edited, I was looking too closely for changes. If that's the original image, then by all means, don't change anything. In the context of the full movie, I wouldn't even notice that anything was off. I watched the clip repeatedly looking too closely.
 

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jrWHAG42 said:
lantern51 said:
That is the actual Death Star shot from the movie before it explodes lol, not anything I created. It probably wasn't as noticeable until I made the image larger.  But I will play with it and see what I can do.

Honestly, chances are that, knowing that the clip was edited, I was looking too closely for changes. If that's the original image, then by all means, don't change anything. In the context of the full movie, I wouldn't even notice that anything was off. I watched the clip repeatedly looking too closely.

LOL... I get that a lot in both my edits. People think that I did an edit or cut the music and it wasn't a change that I made at all  :angel:
 

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I played with it a little bit. I can't make the Death Star smaller because I need the screen to be filled with stars in the background and there would be a empty black bar on the bottom if I made it smaller. So I played with the contrast a bit to slightly darken the shot up and hopefully hide the defects of blowing up (Pun Intended) the image....

 

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Much better! Though there's a shot of the original explosion before the added explosion that wasn't there before, was that intentional?
 
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