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TM2YC said:S8:E3 spoiler ahead...
It was definitely worth waiting 7 seasons to find out that...
...the way to defeat the undefeatable Night King and his Undead horde was just to stab him. How much more satisfying would it have been in the Avengers films if Iron Man had just stabbed Thanos instead of devoting 2 Epic movies to all our heroes defeating him together.
bionicbob said:TM2YC said:S8:E3 spoiler ahead...
It was definitely worth waiting 7 seasons to find out that...
...the way to defeat the undefeatable Night King and his Undead horde was just to stab him. How much more satisfying would it have been in the Avengers films if Iron Man had just stabbed Thanos instead of devoting 2 Epic movies to all our heroes defeating him together.
Well it is not like the Night King...
...was stabbed with any old knife. It was a dagger made of Valryian Steel, which is one of the very few substances, along with dragon glass, able to kill the White Walkers. And it is not like it was an easy kill, hundreds died... not even dragon fire couldn't stop him!
Also, this particular knife has been moving from character to character since season one, so it was a weapon of destiny. So in terms of classic fantasy tropes, I thought this arc conclusion was true to the genre and very satisfying.
Plus, for me, the Night King and his undead army, were just a misdirection....
....In the end, the name of the show is Game of Thrones, and it is all about who will sit on the Iron Throne at the end.![]()
Moe_Syzlak said:The whole White Walker thing was by far the least interesting thing about the show. I’m glad they just got it over with.
geminigod said:Yeah, they need abandon all the mystery and make it more clear to the audience what the deal is with dude torturing Theon. Honestly there wasn't that much mystery about this in the book. It is just unnecessarily confusing the audience for no real payoff that I can think of ...addiesin said:
TM2YC said:bionicbob said:TM2YC said:S8:E3 spoiler ahead...
It was definitely worth waiting 7 seasons to find out that...
...the way to defeat the undefeatable Night King and his Undead horde was just to stab him. How much more satisfying would it have been in the Avengers films if Iron Man had just stabbed Thanos instead of devoting 2 Epic movies to all our heroes defeating him together.
Well it is not like the Night King...
...was stabbed with any old knife. It was a dagger made of Valryian Steel, which is one of the very few substances, along with dragon glass, able to kill the White Walkers. And it is not like it was an easy kill, hundreds died... not even dragon fire couldn't stop him!
Also, this particular knife has been moving from character to character since season one, so it was a weapon of destiny. So in terms of classic fantasy tropes, I thought this arc conclusion was true to the genre and very satisfying."misdirection" is definitely the word. I think the writers didn't have a clue how to wrap it up satisfactory, so staged an hour-long battle to precede the NK death, to make it feel like it had some grand meaning.
A massive, long and barely comprehensible (thanks to the pitch black cinematography and shaky cam/fast editing) battle that had no discernible plan or goal beyond fighting until everyone is dead, even though all involved knew for some time that Dragon Glass and Valryian Steel killed white walkers, which would be an obvious basis for a stratagem to anybody with half a brain. If the NK had had half a brain, he wouldn't have got anywhere near anyone armed with those blades. He could have easily been defeated by a random archer with a lucky shot from a DG arrowhead (which they never attempted to do).
They didn't even use Arya's face changing ability to outwit the NK in some way. That would have given it some spark of cleverness. e.g the NK gets close up on Bran to kill him by touch or something, thinking he is no physical threat and it's really Arya with the blade. The basic problem would still remain that the dreaded NK was as easy to kill as the weakest of his troops, or easier to kill than any of the human combatants (provided the blade is of the right make).