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Just a little copy paste from wiki for your records:

"4K has become the common consumer friendly name for UHDTV but technically it is not 4K. Consumer 4K resolution of 3840 x 2160 (at a 16:9, or 1.78:1 aspect ratio) differs from the industry standard of 4096 x 2160 (at a 1.9:1 aspect ratio)."

So basicaly 4K is the cinema resolution (of movies with this resolution, of course), not your TV screen resolution. The correct word is UHD for Ultra Hight Definition.
Even if Sony kept the "4K" as a marketing thing I think they are in the obligation to call it "4K UHD" because it is not exactely 4k.

(it's a bit the same with 2k and HD, by the way)

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... DVDs still look pretty dang good on my laptop screen. :oops: :)
 

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I recently shopped for a new tv and enjoyed looking at the sparkly UHD models in the store, but the price tag! For a format with basically no content, shelling out 5 times the price was never going to happen. The shop assistant said those big ass 4K's are just sitting there gathering dust. So yes, still a way off before they become mainstream, if ever.

Unless, of course, they release a remastered 4K boxset of the de-specialised original trilogy in the next few years...
 

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njvc said:
Unless, of course, they release a remastered 4K boxset of the de-specialised original trilogy in the next few years...

That my friend is what gamers call a "killer app".
 

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Q2 said:
I'm going to disagree. Porn leads the way in technology, not consoles.

First I didn't say consoles, I said video games. I was only using consoles as a reference, but It is mainly PC gaming that drives the technology (graphic cards, processing, and storage). Perhaps it is porn that drives the market of video media storage to consumers, but certainly doesn't drive the technology. I'm sure over as sony they weren't think, "If we invent Blu-ray, Porn will be so much better!", and Last I checked Evil Angel doesn't have a RnD center.
 

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Gaith said:
... DVDs still look pretty dang good on my laptop screen. :oops: :)

You're sitting too far away from it.
 

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I've always wondered...why do 720p and 1080p refer to vertical resolution while 4K refers to horizontal resolution? Curious.
 

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Aztek463 said:
I've always wondered...why do 720p and 1080p refer to vertical resolution while 4K refers to horizontal resolution? Curious.

Different ways to say mostly the same thing. As you can say a cup is half empty or half full.
But the thing is: there are to different ways to say it because it is not exactely the same thing.

2k = 2048 width pixels ≈ 1080p HD = 1920 width pixels

4k = 4096 width pixels ≈ 2160p UHD = 3840 width pixels


Sur Sony is smart to call their screens "4K" rather than "2160p UHD", even if it's not totaly exact.
Sounds "cooler".
 

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njvc said:
I recently shopped for a new tv and enjoyed looking at the sparkly UHD models in the store, but the price tag!

dude, raise the price of pulp empire. problem solved. :p
 

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njvc said:
I recently shopped for a new tv and enjoyed looking at the sparkly UHD models in the store, but the price tag! For a format with basically no content, shelling out 5 times the price was never going to happen.

Sure! You need the money and the space at home... but those TVs already cost half their last year's price.
Some Sony models that were 5000 (!) euros last year are 2500 today. So no need to rush.
 

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ThrowgnCpr said:
that's not really 4k though. You upscaled 1080p and sharpened and added grain...
Well not true 4K, but the prequels were shot in 1080p only anyhow, at least it might be a better way preserve films that should just be wiped off the earth forever.
 

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emanswfan said:
the prequels were shot in 1080p only anyhow.

Right, but to call that 4k is very misleading. Sure, it may be a decent upscale, and probably better than what some hardware can do, but it very much looks like an upscale.

It's somewhat ironic that a 4k scan of the original trilogy would look better than a 4k upscale of the prequels. hooray for film.
 

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emanswfan said:
Well not true 4K, but the prequels were shot in 1080p only anyhow,

I always hear that but maybe they were shot in 2K?
That would be 128 pixels more (width). Better than nothing, lol.
 

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TMBTM said:
I always hear that but maybe they were shot in 2K?
That would be 128 pixels more (width). Better than nothing, lol.
Well, if you did have the original 2K with 4:4:4 color sampling, and upscale the untouched footage, and re-render and re-composite all the VFX and CGI in 4K, and you could have something that is essentially real 4K, because of the sheer amount of CGI and digital compositing in the last two prequels. But personally, I'd rather they release 4K versions of the OOT, and remake the PT entirely, but who knows if THAT'll ever happen.
 

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emanswfan said:
Well, if you did have the original 2K with 4:4:4 color sampling, and upscale the untouched footage, and re-render and re-composite all the VFX and CGI in 4K, and you could have something that is essentially real 4K, because of the sheer amount of CGI and digital compositing in the last two prequels.
I see what you mean, but the untouched footage would in that case look really softer than all the re-rendered CGI. It would be visually jarring. I guess some filters and tricks could indeed be applied but the result will not be 100% neat 4K.
I guess that's gonna happen anyway because one day or the other all the Star Wars movies will be availale in 4k. Disney would be fool to not do it.
I have next to no doubt that we will have the Original Untouched Trilogy in HD and 4k UHD one day because even if they want to release the final Special Edition version in 4k UHD they'd need to make a clean untouched version before. Even if they simply plan to make "subpar" 4k UHD versions like they'll probably do for the prequels, they'll need at least to have the untouched OT in simple HD.

4k is our only hope.

(or they'll just boost the resolution with some photoshop filters and sell the damn thing...) :oops:
It does not mean that trying to make your 4k versions is not interesting and cool though :)
 

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ThrowgnCpr said:
emanswfan said:
Actually my SW PT edits are going to be in 4K...
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/79768

that's not really 4k though.  You upscaled 1080p and sharpened and added grain...

ThrowgnCpr said:
emanswfan said:
the prequels were shot in 1080p only anyhow.

Right, but to call that 4k is very misleading.  Sure, it may be a decent upscale, and probably better than what some hardware can do, but it very much looks like an upscale.

It's somewhat ironic that a 4k scan of the original trilogy would look better than a 4k upscale of the prequels.  hooray for film.

Old thread, but one of only a few found when searching for '2160' or '2160p'

It's even more ironic that this is exactly what a lot of studios are doing with their "4K" releases. The only benefit over standard blu-ray is HDR and maybe a better surround mix.
 

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I admit that, contrary to my 2014 post earlier in this thread, I've come to see a significant difference between DVD and HD - not just on my laptop, but especially on my HD projector and a big-ass screen. However, I remain skeptical about 4K, and this analysis by some random blogger only reinforces that skepticism:

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Yeah... that's not a difference worth upgrading your whole system and then paying an extra $5-10/movie for. :p
 

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^ I can see the difference. The skin pores, the eye lashes etc. I'd have been more interested in seeing a comparison of a 70mm IMAX shot from Dunkirk (I assume that one is standard 70mm).

That said, I too remain skeptical about the benefits of 4K for home viewing. Sitting up close to my 4K-size editing screen, I can see the limitations of 1080p (2K-ish) blu-rays but from a chair on the other side of the room, not so much. Plus I'm still wary of the whole HDR thing.
 
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