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gazza said:
bruce lee just got a whole lot cooler
wilhelm scream said:Recently, Disney explained the specific reason why they got rid of the old expanded universe: https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-expanded-universe-story-that-lead-to-lucasfilm-re-w-1822092518
While I understand their reasoning, I can't help but wonder: if they wanted to ignore Chewie's death, then why not ignore the entire New Jedi Order series and everything after it, considering how bad it got.
But then again, maybe it was for the better, considering how inferior the Disney continuity is when compared to legends.
wilhelm scream said:You know, I've noticed 2 interesting side effects to how unsatisfied with the Disney Star Wars movies (and their not very good canon materials, like Rebels).
1: More and more people are going over to Star Wars Legends, because of how badly the new films have treated the original trilogy characters (especially Han and Luke).
2: The prequels are getting more and more praise.
To be honest, the only reason why I am going to continue seeing the new films, is to see how Disney could screw up next. Now, if you excuse me, I need to finish reading the The Hand of Thrawn Duology.
P.S. The true episodes 7,8 and 9 are the Thrawn trilogy.
wilhelm scream said:You know, I've noticed 2 interesting side effects to how unsatisfied with the Disney Star Wars movies (and their not very good canon materials, like Rebels).
1: More and more people are going over to Star Wars Legends, because of how badly the new films have treated the original trilogy characters (especially Han and Luke).
2: The prequels are getting more and more praise.
To be honest, the only reason why I am going to continue seeing the new films, is to see how Disney could screw up next. Now, if you excuse me, I need to finish reading the The Hand of Thrawn Duology.
P.S. The true episodes 7,8 and 9 are the Thrawn trilogy.
Moe_Syzlak said:Well, I’d rate TLJ a C and TFA a C-, but I think they are so much better than the prequels it’s not even a discussion.
Moe_Syzlak said:The Thrawn trilogy is one I read when it first came out and I still have no idea what anyone sees in those books. They felt poorly written to me, even by pulp sci fi standards and Thrawn was a completely uninteresting character to me. I’d love to hear these defenses of Thrawn and the PT. Because I’m honestly at a loss. Please provide links!
TomH1138 said:In the article posted by Wilhelm Scream, the logic used by Lucasfilm doesn't make any sense to me:
"We had to get rid of the EU because we couldn't bear for Chewbacca to die...but now in the sequels we're killing off everyone else."
I mean, there are absolutely dramatically valid reasons to kill characters off. But saying that they had to get rid of the EU because it would be too upsetting to kill off a beloved character ... that's a head-scratcher in light of what they've done with the material themselves.
Gaith said:Moe_Syzlak said:The Thrawn trilogy is one I read when it first came out and I still have no idea what anyone sees in those books. They felt poorly written to me, even by pulp sci fi standards and Thrawn was a completely uninteresting character to me. I’d love to hear these defenses of Thrawn and the PT. Because I’m honestly at a loss. Please provide links!
Uh, not sure I can help you, as I love pretty much everything about the Thrawn Trilogy. Well, maybe not Luke's mention of hot chocolate (I feel pretty neutral about that, but it's a throwaway detail at the very start), but everything else, from the plots, to how our OT heroes have evolved without being too perfect, to the new characters, to the tactility of the universe (hyperspace travels and on-foot surface journeys taking days at a time, political bickering and gossip, etc.). I love the double threat of Evil Sherlock Holmes General and Batshit Insane Dark Jedi, and how they plan to defeat the New Republic despite being tactical underdogs. I love how pretty much everything pays off/comes together at the end. One of the critic blurbs for Heir to the Empire says something like "it feels so much like the movies, you can practically hear John Williams score in your head as your read," and I couldn't agree more.
Moe_Syzlak said:Well it certainly seems I’m in the minority. I often wonder if it’s the same sort of nostalgia that allows people to like those books. All I remember about Thrawn is we’re told he’s a tactical genius and he’s blue.
Moe_Syzlak said:Even so, I think LFL just adapting the books to the screen would’ve been a huge mistake. You think hardcore fans are upset about the current ST? Imagine the backlash when a screen adaptation doesn’t capture what all the fans had in their minds when reading.
Gaith said:Moe_Syzlak said:Well it certainly seems I’m in the minority. I often wonder if it’s the same sort of nostalgia that allows people to like those books. All I remember about Thrawn is we’re told he’s a tactical genius and he’s blue.
I first read the trilogy as a kid, so nostalgia may very well play a role in my appreciation, but I re-read it a few years back and found it as fantastic as ever. And we're not merely "told" Thrawn is a tactical genius, Zahn absolutely shows him out-thinking our heroes multiple times in the course of the stories themselves. Perhaps it's time you gave them another try?
Canon Editor said:I believe what they meant was having a character die in a book without the proper build up or emotional payoff these characters and their audiences deserve, which they believe to have done with Han and Luke in the sequel trilogy… and I tend to agree !
TomH1138 said:Canon Editor said:I believe what they meant was having a character die in a book without the proper build up or emotional payoff these characters and their audiences deserve, which they believe to have done with Han and Luke in the sequel trilogy… and I tend to agree !
Ahh, OK! Putting it that way, it makes a lot more sense. "Chewie died offscreen 15 years ago" is no way to start the opening crawl.