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An awesome video marred by an abrupt cut to screeching dubstep making-of preview crap. If you make something great, give it a moment to breathe! Sheesh.  :-/
 

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I found a plot hole in Episode 1 that I don't think I've heard anyone talk about. Tell me if you've caught this before.


Here's the setup:
So Qui Gon makes two bets with Watto. 1 Take my ship if Anakin loses/ I get my ship parts and you take the money if Anakin wins. 2 Take my pod racer if Sebulba wins/ Give me Anakin if Sebulba loses.
Before they agree, Qui Gon tries to leverage bet 2 into giving him both Anakin and his mother, but Watto says no pod racer is worth two slaves. But apparently a pod racer is worth one slave, hence the agreement.

After winning the race, Qui Gon gets to keep his ship and his pod racer, he gets free parts, and he gets Anakin. Watto gets to keep Anakin's mother, and he gets the winnings from the race (which is weird because he says he lost "everything").


Here's the plot hole:
After the race but before they leave, Anakin gives his mother the money from selling the pod racer. She thanks him but acts like it's no big deal. Is that not enough to buy her freedom? Wouldn't that be on top of your list of priorities? Stay with your son and not be a slave anymore?

She totally could have been free by the end of the film.

The second prequel film makes it even worse because it's like he just forgot she existed for ten years and he shows up right when she croaks.

Anyway, has anyone else caught this or am I wearing tin foil on my head? (Why can't it be a little of both?)
 

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addiesin said:
(which is weird because he says he lost "everything").

Didn't he also say he had been placing other bets on Sebulba's victory?  I guess that even with whatever money he got out of this arrangement, he still had a major net loss on his... claws? 

addiesin said:
After the race but before they leave, Anakin gives his mother the money from selling the pod racer. She thanks him but acts like it's no big deal. Is that not enough to buy her freedom?

Assuming my previous interpretation is correct, I guess Watto's new financial situation was such that he'd up the price on Shimi?   Maybe?



addiesin said:
The second prequel film makes it even worse because it's like he just forgot she existed for ten years and he shows up right when she croaks.

Yeah.  Even if you go by the "Jedi aren't allowed to interfere outside the Republic" or whatever reason they'd have for not sending some Knights to deal with the rampant slavery they uncovered, there's another huge gap there.  Padme.  At some point after her elected monarch term limit was up and before her Senate run, you'd think she might have gone back to Tatooine, expressed a little gratitude by saving her.
 

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Mr. Plinkett discussed the convoluted bet at 3:36 in this segment of his TPM review.

Plot-wise, the whole podracing scene made no sense. A Jedi Master and a Jedi Knight should be able to procure money in all kinds of ways in a lawless, gambling-heavy spaceport without needing to bet their remaining assets on some kid, no matter how many lice he has. :p
 

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Gaith said:
Mr. Plinkett discussed the convoluted bet at 3:36 in this segment of his TPM review.

Plot-wise, the whole podracing scene made no sense. A Jedi Master and a Jedi Knight should be able to procure money in all kinds of ways in a lawless, gambling-heavy spaceport without needing to bet their remaining assets on some kid, no matter how many lice he has. :p

He definitely brought up the fact that the bet was convoluted. I don't think he brought up the fact that the characters procured enough money (not in the bet, but as a separate off-screen sale) to purchase Anakin's mom from slavery, thus freeing her and preventing the conception of the greatest villain in the galaxy. They wouldn't even have to change any lines. Just have her come with them.
 

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Maybe when writing the scripts, Lucas was left confused and sleepy by large meals doused with sukaiwaka ranch.
 

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searching your feelings: not a particularly accurate paternity test.

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I like how the last two digits of the page this thread reached spell out 77... just like the original episode's release year!!!
 

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A rather  famous character joins Rebels, and thus the new canon, for the first time:


(It's this guy.)

Hm. Never thought of him having a British accent, despite the character's clear fictional inspiration. And I don't know if I'll ever even try the show. Still, this is... kinda cool, in a mild way, I guess?
 

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Gaith said:
A rather  famous character joins Rebels, and thus the new canon, for the first time:


(It's this guy.)

Hm. Never thought of him having a British accent, despite the character's clear fictional inspiration. And I don't know if I'll ever even try the show. Still, this is... kinda cool, in a mild way, I guess?


I'm with you on this one. I liked Rebels okay and have never read EU stuff but this guy was everybody's favorite. It seems like this will make a ton of people happy, which is nice.
 

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Isn't that Dash Rendar's Outrider at 1:08? I thought it would turn out to be him in the show after those 2 seconds.
I think this show will leave a lot of people wondering why Thrawn wasn't in the main conflicts after they see his prowess as an Admiral. Perhaps he'll make it into a Star Wars anthology movie.
 

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Of-bloody-f**kin' course they are.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/star-wars-the-force-awakens-3d.html

Still, new features:

The release will include:
  • Audio Commentary with J.J. Abrams – Enter the mind of visionary director J.J. Abrams as he reveals the creative and complex choices made while developing the first film in the new Star Wars trilogy.
  • Foley: A Sonic Tale – Foley artists, consisting of old pros and new talent, unite to bring the world of Star Wars: The Force Awakens alive through the matching of sound to action.
  • Sounds of the Resistance – Hear how the epic sound design of Star Wars: The Force Awakens moves the Star Wars legacy forward.
  • Deleted Scenes – View never-before-shared scenes that didn’t make the film’s final cut.
  • Dressing the Galaxy – Costume Designer Michael Kaplan reveals how the costumes of the original Star Wars movies were re-envisioned for a new generation.
  • The Scavenger and the Stormtrooper: A Conversation with Daisy Ridley and John Boyega – The two new stars share the thrill of working together on the adventure of a lifetime and becoming part of the Star Wars legacy.
  • Inside the Armory – Take a fascinating tour through the design and creation of the weaponry in Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
  • Classic Bonus Features – These offerings from the April release of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, include the complete story behind the making of the film, an unforgettable cast table read, insights from legendary composer John Williams and deleted scenes, as well as features that dig deeper into the creation of new characters such as BB-8, the design of the climactic lightsaber battle between Rey and Kylo Ren, the film’s remarkable digital artistry and the Star Wars: Force for Change global aid initiative.
So glad to see more deleted scenes. I'm hoping they'll be more substantive than the first set.
 

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