wilhelm scream said:
I feel really offended by your comment. For a start, I don't know how to use spoiler tags and I didn't mean to spoil anything, I assumed people wouldn't read this thread without seeing the latest episode first.
I'm sorry to offend, that was not my intent. If you don't know how to use the spoiler tag, I'll explain. use these brackets [tag] and replace the word 'tag' with the word 'spoiler'. Then add your text content after the brackets. After the text content, use these brackets with the slash to close the tag [/tag] and again, replace the word 'tag' with the word 'spoiler'. Alternatively, hit the 'Reply' button on a post that has a spoiler tag and just copy what that person did.
Unfortunately as evidenced by the replies to your spoiler post, some people didn't even click on the thread and were still spoiled. It is a legitimate concern.
I do have respect for the show! I just think it's getting as bad as when JNT was producer! In fact it's even worse! I will never forget watching the 50th anniversary special on the day it was broadcast, and I couldn't feel anything but disappointment from it. It just had a cop out ending which undid what RTD had done for the show since it re-launched in 2005. It also made a bunch of bad decisions.
For example: Why was there a need to create the War Doctor? He could have been the 8th doctor as he was only in 1 TV story and it would explain why he was never mentioned in the revival. Also, why were the Zygons there!? That had nothing to do with the story and were just there so Moffat could do another infamous question which would take ages for it to be answered! But the worst thing was cutting short the regeneration! Even if Eccleston had said no, they could have just used a picture of him! (As This video proves it was possible: [video]
For me, Steven Moffat is ruining the show with his UN-necessary story arcs and confusing story telling which is UN-enjoyable and might get the show cancelled!
I can appreciate that you don't like some of Moffat's and the show's choices, and in some ways I agree. The 8th doctor could have been utilized in lieu of the 9th since Eccleston really didn't want to show up. Paul McGann was obviously willing to make an appearance, hence his turning up in the short 'The Night of the Doctor'. I think Moffat's got an obsession with giving the audience what they would never expect, and sometimes this turns out for the worse instead of for the better. However, I disagree with your opinion that it's disappointing, awful, terrible, unenjoyable, etc. I use those words when I'm not entertained and/or when the story doesn't make any sense, and I felt like the story did make sense and was entertaining for the majority of the current season.
Anyway, I much prefer this kind of reasoning for why you feel so negatively instead of just saying you hate something. Thank you for that.
As for why I hate Hell Bent: This explains perfectly why it's terrible!:
I see that this reviewer doesn't seem to be a fan of Doctor Who anymore. I am sorry if you feel that way and still continue to watch, that must be painful. I know the feeling, I'm still watching Gotham even though deep down I feel like it has a lot of problems that could harm the character and setting of Batman and Gotham respectively. The show isn't for me but my wife likes it because it resembles her favorite crime procedural shows, and I end up along for the ride because I'm so glad she's interested in anything remotely related to science fiction and superheroes. I don't share my opinion of Gotham very often because I don't like wasting time explaining my views or talking about a thing I don't even enjoy all that much. But if I do express my frustrations with it, I like to think I justify my opinions with examples or reasoning.
That's all I'm asking of you. Not to "try to do better than Moffat" which I've seen people suggest and think is ridiculous. Not to "stop watching because it's clearly not for you" because as I've experienced sometimes you just can't pull yourself away even if you're not enjoying a thing. But to be expressive and open to actually discussing what you see as problems, because sometimes that can be the best kind of discussion. Even if we don't agree, we can understand each other.