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(06-07-2020, 03:49 PM)Gaith Wrote: ... Holy crap: some crazy hack fraud is remastering the classic Plinkett reviews to HD!! They've done Gen/FC/INS and TPM/AOTC so far:


I've been hoping for years that someone would do that. Hats off to Blue Copter for being the one to finally do it.

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Unfortunately, on the flip side, this means that RLM isn't getting any of the ad revenue (if there is any). Maybe if Blue Copter could contact RLM, they would be able to upload the remastered versions to their own channel?
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(06-07-2020, 02:15 PM)TM2YC Wrote: Star Trek: Insurrection (1998)
I've never disliked 'Insurrection' like some fans did and I still enjoy it. The action and excitement is dialed way back from 'First Contact', it's going for more of a "prime directive" themed TNG TV approach instead.
I don't really understand why people don't like Generation and Insurrection. They aren't very cinematic, but they really do feel like part of the TV show; more so at least than First Contact (which I like) and Nemesis (which I don't).
(06-07-2020, 02:15 PM)TM2YC Wrote: Even back in 1998, the early CGI FX looked off and obviously the entire climatic sequence where they didn't get around to replacing the blue-screen is embarrassing.
You're absolutely right that the blue-screen is ridiculous. I don't know why they didn't at least put a simple starfield in or something like that since they're in orbit. Maybe put the planet in one or two shots?
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The blue walls are not a bluescreen, and there are no missing effects.  My reasoning: 1. You can see the blue-light color scheme elsewhere on the Son'a ship.  2. The scene was shot with a greenscreen for set extensions.  The blue walls were shot without tracking markers, a must-have for the roving camera in the '90s.
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(06-10-2020, 06:35 AM)Uncanny Antman Wrote: The blue walls are not a bluescreen, and there are no missing effects.  My reasoning: 1. You can see the blue-light color scheme elsewhere on the Son'a ship.  2. The scene was shot with a greenscreen for set extensions.  The blue walls were shot without tracking markers, a must-have for the roving camera in the '90s.

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Yes you are almost certainly right. I did notice that the Son'a ship bridge had some blue lit panels but thought they'd been missed too.

I guess the production meeting went like this:

Set Designer - "Here is my design for the Son'a ship:

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Producer - "But it looks exactly like a pile of cr*p???"

Set Designer - "No, it's supposed to look like a pile of cr*p."

Producer - "Ohhh, I see. Here's some money then."

Big Grin

You'd think somebody on the experienced production team would've said "Hang on guys, isn't that the same shade of blue as bluescreen? won't that look unfinished? Can't we use a different shade of blue, or a lighter/darker blue?". I was wrong to blame massive incompetence, when it was just regular strength incompetence Wink .



I wish bluescreen concerns were all that was wrong with the next one...

Star Trek: Nemesis (2002)
As far as I'm concerned, this goes off the rails immediately with the choice of a heavily serifed font for all the opening titles. As far as I know, 'Nemesis' is still the only Star Trek TV show or film in the franchise's 53-year history to use a strongly serifed font for it's titles... madness! This movie is set in the future, not the middle ages!!  Angry Big Grin After the titles there is a horrifying scene showing Romulans being melted alive. Then a total change of gears over to a sequence where Picard is laughing and joking, breaking his crew's balls and then getting into some extreme-sports dune-buggy driving. Later he insists on having a joyride in an alien shuttle (despite not understanding the controls and Data having explained that he does), then duel-wielding phaser-rifles like he's Rambo. I started to wonder if this film and it's direct sequel, the new 'Star Trek: Picard' series are about an alternate universe Picard? Much like that series, I reckon a lot of the faults with 'Nemesis' are down to Patrick Stewart having too much creative control and too big an ego by this point. I don't put as much blame on co-story-writer/star Brent Spiner, as he probably had some nice rough ideas in concept. I don't put all the blame on Director Stuart Baird like some of the cast have. The film is directed just fine and it looks quite nice but he's never worked as a Director again.

Having Picard's clone Shinzon played by Tom Hardy, who looks nothing like Stewart, was a ridiculous idea. If Stewart couldn't be bothered to perform both roles, they should've abandoned the script right there. It's made worse with the decision to have Shinzon act like, sound like and be made up to look exactly like Dr. Evil. There had been 2-3 Austin Powers films before 'Nemesis', so I don't know how the production team didn't realise, I'm sure every audience member did. The mind-rape scene by Shinzon on Troi is as distasteful as it always was. Thankfully Picard is kidnapped/beamed-away before he could complete his bit of dialogue ordering a crying Troi to get mind-raped a few more times, just so he can get some intel to use against Shinzon. There is a deleted scene of her getting violated a second time, so it could have been even worse I suppose. Worf's character has finally been reduced to a plot device. A dumb, irrational, hot-headed Klingon who is there to make the other crew seem more rational, or to act as irritable comic-relief. At the point when I was thinking "Oh, the story is nearly over" I checked and the movie still had 45-minutes left to go. This last section is mostly one big, loud, boring space battle.

Is there anything positive? I'd forgotten how good some of the FX look (this was my first HD viewing), the long opening shot flying through space and then sweeping down onto the Romulan senate is still impressive. The Data/B4 plot-twist is really well executed, resisting the temptation to tip the audience off. It's nice to see Riker and Troi finally get hitched. I liked the little reprise Jerry Goldsmith does of his epic space-dock music, although it's indicative of how far the ambitions of this franchise had declined that he's only allowed 23-seconds of footage to score, instead of the 4.5-minute canvas he was given in 'The Motion Picture'. I watched the acres of deleted material on the blu-ray, which are mostly character scenes (I believe they are only a fraction of what was trimmed). I think the film is fundamentally flawed but I'm sure a much better cut could've been achieved if they hadn't sacrificed many of these scenes to fit in more overblown action. It's just a shame they are so low-resolution and unfinished. 'Nemesis' is the equivalent of the Bond movie 'Die Another Day' (also from 2002, along with 'Attack of the Clones'). Films so bad that they killed off their respective franchises for a number of years... except the TV show 'Enterprise' had managed to slip out the year before the coffin was nailed shut.

Note to future self: Do not be tempted to watch this ever again... it won't get better. Re-watch the first three NextGen movies instead, you really like those ones.

^ Having said that I'd be curious to see a "workprint" fanedit, that swapped much of the space battles for all the deleted scenes, in whatever visual state they could be presented in.





With the 'Nemesis' nightmare over, I'm going back to my "happy place"... Season 2 of Voyager on Netflix.
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(06-10-2020, 06:35 AM)Uncanny Antman Wrote: The blue walls are not a bluescreen, and there are no missing effects.  My reasoning: 1. You can see the blue-light color scheme elsewhere on the Son'a ship.  2. The scene was shot with a greenscreen for set extensions.  The blue walls were shot without tracking markers, a must-have for the roving camera in the '90s.

Huh. I guess you're right. So it's not an accident or lack of funding, just a terrible choice that looks like an accident.
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(06-10-2020, 11:10 AM)TM2YC Wrote: Having Picard's clone Shinzon played by Tom Hardy, who looks nothing like Stewart, was a ridiculous idea. If Stewart couldn't be bothered to perform both roles, they should've abandoned the script right there.

Agreed. Why not a Romulan-recruited Mirror Picard? That none of the 13 films and counting have touched on the Mirror Universe is kinda bonkers to me. (Though I know Discovery has dabbled with it.) That said, I remember finding the final space battle pretty exciting, and I really liked the semi-flirtatious banter between Picard and Commander Donatra. A shame that wasn't followed up on...
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Speaking of Romulans, mirrors and things that seem bonkers for never having happened...

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(06-10-2020, 11:24 AM)asterixsmeagol Wrote: Huh. I guess you're right. So it's not an accident or lack of funding, just a terrible choice that looks like an accident.
(06-10-2020, 11:10 AM)TM2YC Wrote: You'd think somebody on the experienced production team would've said "Hang on guys, isn't that the same shade of blue as bluescreen? won't that look unfinished? Can't we use a different shade of blue, or a lighter/darker blue?". I was wrong to blame massive incompetence, when it was just regular strength incompetence Wink .

I totally agree.  Whatever their reasons were, the smooth blue was a terrible choice.  I could see it being okay if the movie were made decades earlier, before bluescreen tech was widely known by the general movie-going audience, but a late '90s movie?  Pure stupidity.
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The first look at the animated comedy show Lower Decks is out...



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Kidding! It’s just as bad as I thought it’d be. Dodgy
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