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Terra Nova

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Now, in total contrast to American Horror Story - I found Terra Nova, which everyone has been hyping as 'THE show to watch' - not only found it dull, cliche and unoriginal - the thought that keeps going around in my head is :


The premise of this show DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

They travel back in time, through a 'crack', but because the probe they sent never reappeared, this means it went to a parallel universe, which means whatever they do back there doesn't effect the present. WHAT? Furthermore, they can't send messages back to the future, but somehow, the future keeps sending people through, not knowing if they're getting there or they're all dead. Somehow, Terra Nova has jeeps, machine guns, tyres, sophisticated 'Bones' style computer tech, powered by ? Who makes the bullets? It looks like IKEA fitted out the houses. Plus, they have money, but given that everyone there is there for a reason - ie, their occupation, why do you need money? And how much is it worth and how do you get paid?

It has more holes in it than The Phantom Menace that has been shot to pieces. And Spielburgo is involved!!! :-(
 

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All good points...but trumped by one simple fact. The show is dull. I could forgive myriad problems if it weren't for the whole "boring and stupid" problem. :)
 

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white43 said:
Now, in total contrast to American Horror Story - I found Terra Nova, which everyone has been hyping as 'THE show to watch' - not only found it dull, cliche and unoriginal - the thought that keeps going around in my head is :


The premise of this show DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

They travel back in time, through a 'crack', but because the probe they sent never reappeared, this means it went to a parallel universe, which means whatever they do back there doesn't effect the present. WHAT? Furthermore, they can't send messages back to the future, but somehow, the future keeps sending people through, not knowing if they're getting there or they're all dead. Somehow, Terra Nova has jeeps, machine guns, tyres, sophisticated 'Bones' style computer tech, powered by ? Who makes the bullets? It looks like IKEA fitted out the houses. Plus, they have money, but given that everyone there is there for a reason - ie, their occupation, why do you need money? And how much is it worth and how do you get paid?

It has more holes in it than The Phantom Menace that has been shot to pieces. And Spielburgo is involved!!! :-(

I only watched the pilot, so I may not be up to speed, but I'm not sure what your "WHAT?" is for? Why doesn't that make sense? It's an alternate timeline. Pretty simple. I also thought they could communicate with the future. I thought they mentioned it in the pilot. And why wouldn't they have all that stuff if they sent it back as well? I don't recall anywhere saying that only people were sent back. And power...of course...is supplied by natural, renewable resources like solar.

Dunno anything about money since it wasn't shown in the pilot as far as I can tell.

It's a stupid show that is cliched and preachy, but I don't think most of what you brought up is all that hard to explain away. The biggest flaw is the BS future Earth, the characters, the political message, etc. IMO.

I won't be watching it further.
 

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I am a believer that if you can go back in time you can't change anything. Because what is done is done. If you think you can kill Hitler by time travelling: you will be killed before, and no one will know. That's what I think. The only other "believable" POV is alternate timeline, indeed. I did not see Terra Nova yet. But I'd always prefer alternate timelines stories to the unbelievable "change the past and you change the future" ones (exept for BTTF, because it don't take itself seriously).
 

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This is a family show but without the needed humor like in Eureka or other family sci-fi shows. Also, it needs way more hot women for me to keep watching.
 

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I only watched the pilot but fell asleep halfway through. Just didn't hold my interest, and with limited time I have to be frugal with what show I watch.
 

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I'll give it, as nOm says 'the prerequesite 4 episodes'. If it's still stupid balls, I'm out.
 

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All the comments here basically describe my feelings on the show too. 3 episodes in, and I'm already thinking it's like a poor man's version of SGU. I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt for at least another half dozen episodes, just to see if it livens up at all. However, if this is meant to be the best TV show around at the moment, I say there's something very wrong people.
 

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Can't even bring myself to watch a single episode after the south park dis, do let me know, after four episodes, if I'm wrong though :)
 

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Ep 4. Started okish. No worse than an SG1 episodic, but then downhill - I hate it when the audience are two steps ahead of the characters. "But why aren't you effected????"

There's only 13 eps. I might finish out. Might....
 

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Lol, think I'll give this one a miss then.
 

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TMBTM said:
I am a believer that if you can go back in time you can't change anything. Because what is done is done. If you think you can kill Hitler by time travelling: you will be killed before, and no one will know. That's what I think. The only other "believable" POV is alternate timeline, indeed. I did not see Terra Nova yet. But I'd always prefer alternate timelines stories to the unbelievable "change the past and you change the future" ones (exept for BTTF, because it don't take itself seriously).

Realistically, I don't think time travel will ever be possible for humans for the reasons you point out that it would just cause too much cosmic instability if it were. Maybe on some massive galactic black hole scale or something where conditions are very rare is it possible for energy and elemental particles to jump through time.

Regardless of all that though, from a storytelling standpoint I have always been fond of stories like 12 Monkeys where when characters try to alter the past, it turns out that that attempt is already factored into the extant present. I.E. you can change the past, but you can't really change the past!
 

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geminigod said:
Regardless of all that though, from a storytelling standpoint I have always been fond of stories like 12 Monkeys where when characters try to alter the past, it turns out that that attempt is already factored into the extant present. I.E. you can change the past, but you can't really change the past!

I like this type as well...as long as it's not that attempt that triggers the stuff in the future that turns out to be the reason for going back in the first place (ex. Terminator). That kind of thing is a major logical plot hole, and most movies can't make up for it in other ways (thankfully Terminator did).
 

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Isn't that better known as Grandfather Paradox? I fully agree Kev.
 

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^The Grandfather paradox is going back in time and killing your own Grandfather, which should not be possible according to a single timeline theory. The Terminator (and 12 Monkeys) exhibit a predestination paradox, where everything that happens always happened, and always will. (The Terminator sequels notwithstanding.)
 

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Yea well. Terra Nova is still shit.
 

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I agree. Just watched the...I think third episode. Blecch. One more chance and then I'm out.
 
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