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Gaith said:Either way, I've avoided it, for exactly that reason. :-D
Crap, I just used this in another thread and forgot I already used it here. I try not to repeat these. Please forgive me everyone.TV's Frink said:
nOmArch said:Aahhh Deuce Bigelo one of my most guilty pleasures.
Nathan Rabin is completely right about this. (And it's interesting to see how a lot of people love Fight Club for all the wrong reasons.) I fail to see, however, why having this weird dynamic in a film is a bad thing. It's what makes it interesting. Why does it have to believe in its own "power"? Depicting it should be enough.while it may be interpreted as an anti-fascist/anti-cult parable, it also draws most of its power from the same conformist, hyper-masculine ideology.
TV's Frink said:This is pretty damn cool, and surprisingly cheap:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/movie-bar-codes/
Wait a sec - when did Marla ever see "the guys"? All she ever saw was Edward Norton's 'Narrator' character. Tyler Durden does not exist, and she only saw anyone from Project Mayhem when she stopped into the house one time, and later when they retrieve her from the Greyhound bus and bring her to the Narrator in the empty skyscraper. She's angry (more miserable, was my understanding) because she hasn't led a life worth living. And she's lonely. She acts-out for attention.Gaith said:Roger Ebert:"...a feisty chain-smoking hellcat [character Marla Singer] who is probably so angry because none of the guys thinks having sex with her is as much fun as a broken nose...."
Who interprets this as an anti-fascist parable or a warning against cults? Is that a common take on the movie? I thought it was much more about being comfortable with who you are, living a life you will feel satisfied with, taking chances toward your goals, abandoning the notions of consumer society, rejecting advertising's mission, resisting corporate monopoly of culture, and accepting death as inevitable & not to be feared. Nihilism? It's hardly nihilistic. The narrator's alter-ego tells him to re-make himself, and he does, and the alter-ego very nearly comes to takeover the actual person. This movie is about sanity, and losing it, but also (or in doing so) giving-up on the superfluous things that we allow or even choose to be bound with.Gaith said:Nathan Rabin, AV Club: "Everything about it conveys a smug, adolescent nihilism that's as emotionally powerful as it is shallow, and while it may be interpreted as an anti-fascist/anti-cult parable, it also draws most of its power from the same conformist, hyper-masculine ideology."
Norton's character had no girlfriend, no pornos, no calendar pin-up girl, no calling a phone-sex 900-number - could it be that he just isn't a highly sexual person, or that he's so buried in working, and striving to attain that one more bit of completion (the new shelf, the latest hi-tech saltshaker, the coolest dining table) toward perfection that he just doesn't really live, I mean really live, or even interact with anyone? Who are his friends? A single one is not shown. And he is constantly traveling, fails to get adequate sleep, frequently deals with death and injury found suddenly as the result of corporate greed and disregard - might these factor explain the psychotic break he undergoes, resulting in the formation of a drastically different personality he elects to 'follow' and have lead him?Gaith said:Why does the unnamed protagonist ...not forget all about Tyler Durden and lose himself in the delights of such a lithe and pliant barbie doll of a Hollywood Love Interst? The movie doesn't bother to offer an explanation, which can only be interpreted to mean: "because the plot requires him not to."
Oh, well that explains a lot. If you're not bothered by the spoilers above, maybe you should watch the whole thing. You'd have a better ground for your critique, if you still hold that position by the end.Gaith said:I gave up a bit more than part-way through
That's what you said. Here's my mental gut reaction:veggieguy12 said:Norton's character had no girlfriend, no pornos, no calendar pin-up girl, no calling a phone-sex 900-number - could it be that he just isn't a highly sexual person, or that he's so buried in working, and striving to attain that one more bit of completion (the new shelf, the latest hi-tech saltshaker, the coolest dining table) toward perfection that he just doesn't really live, I mean really live, or even interact with anyone? Who are his friends? A single one is not shown. And he is constantly traveling, fails to get adequate sleep, frequently deals with death and injury found suddenly as the result of corporate greed and disregard - might these factor explain the psychotic break he undergoes, resulting in the formation of a drastically different personality he elects to 'follow' and have lead him?
... maybe you should watch the whole thing.
Not going to finish a movie that bored me about a boring protagonist, sorry.veggieguy12 said:Norton's character is that of a boring idiot.
... maybe you should watch the whole thing.