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A Documentary on Illegal Editing

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CLEANFLIX raises provocative questions about artistic vision, consumer rights, film ownership, and self-censorship as it follows the sanitized movie industry from inception to collapse. Because Mormons are counseled by their religion's leaders to avoid R-rated films, dozens of businesses in Utah were able to create a niche in the DVD market by stripping Hollywood films of sex, violence, and profanity and then selling and renting "clean" versions of these films at retail stores not only in Utah, but throughout North America.

When news of film sanitizing reached the likes of Steven Spielberg, Steven Soderbergh, Robert Redford, and Martin Scorsese, they and other members of the Director's Guild of America responded with outrage over what they saw as the desecration of their art and a violation of held copyright. In 2006, a US District Court judge ruled in accordance with the DGA's arguments, ordering the retailers of cleaned-up films to close their doors.

However, dozens of sanitized-movie retailers defied the judgment and remained open well into 2007 and beyond, supported by their largely Mormon customer base, who saw the Hollywood filmmakers behind the suit as self-important and morally bankrupt. During the time these stores were operating illegally, James and Ligairi had unprecedented access to dozens of renegade stores and their Mormon owners, including the infamous Daniel Thompson.

CLEANFLIX follows this publicly open but privately conflicted man through the legal and moral battles he would face, while offering a revealing look behind the scenes of the sanitized movie industry and the Mormon culture that spawned it.
 
that explains why all you faneditors are mormon i guess.
 
killbillme said:
Mormons are counseled by their religion's leaders to avoid R-rated films.
:p
 
joebshmoe said:
that explains why all you faneditors are mormon i guess.
For me, it's getting to have multiple wives.

...It's worth having to put up with Chloe Sevigny to get to have Ginnifer Goodwin. :)
 
looking forward to the first fanedit of this!
 
ohmss said:
looking forward to the first fanedit of this!

So, would that be "art imitating life" or "life imitating art"?

Or maybe "art imitating life imitating art" or "life imitating art imitating life"...


:???:




I'm quitting while I'm ahead.

I am ahead, aren't I? :wat:
 
In the podcast that I first heard about this documentary, the film makers mentioned that the big issue was
not so much about "artistic integrity" but it was really about money.
You see, Producers, Directors and Studios already make edited versions of their films.
They make tv versions, airplane versions and other versions I can't recall.
But the issue with CLEANFLIX is that they were making the clean edits and selling their copies and Hollywood
was out of the loop. The money-making loop. They were Mormon clean pirates. LOL.
So as I always told everyone here, as long as we don't make any money out of our fanedits, we should be ok. :)
 
seems appropriate

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:smile:
 
I watched this doc last night. It was really interesting, especially given the relation to our little hobby. But as was pointed out above, the problem stemmed from the money.

nOmArch said:
Daniel Thompson arrested for alledged underage sex

since i can find not a lot else about this story i assume he was proved innocent.

The doc covers this near the end and

he was found guilty of something because he was sentenced to two years in prison plus a "maximum fine" (no word on how much the fine was, or what he was guilty of specifically). The doc also said he served 47 days in jail and then was transferred to house arrest, but no mention beyond that. No matter what the situation with the 14 year old girls really was, it's pretty clear he was distributing porn and it really does sound like some of it was of underage girls (and boys? I don't remember). I don't know if he could be proved guilty of the sexual encounter, but I presume the police found underage porn in the store if nothing else.
 
Well, I do agree with one thing, is that sanitizing movies is stupid. Those movies are made what they are for a reason. If you don't like it, don't watch that movie. I'm a christian (far from Mormon) and I find it perfectly fine watching R-rated movies. I'm very good friends with strong Christian faithed people and yet they listen Nirvana and other heavily explict bands. They say that you can listen watch things with say sex, as long as you're mature about it. There's a reason R-rated films say, for "Mature Audiences". Censorship is hurting today's society, and those people should stop. Sorry, if I've offended anyone here.
 
^ Only through your misspelling of "here". :wink:
 
emanswfan said:
Those movies are made what they are for a reason. If you don't like it, don't watch that movie.

Unfortunately, you can make the exact same argument against fanediting in general.

emanswfan said:
I'm very good friends with strong Christian faithed people and yet they listen Nirvana and other heavily explict bands.
Nirvana is explicit? Tell me they listen to Cannibal Corpse and I'll be impressed. :rockon:
 
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