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Zack & Miri Make A Porno (with a special note about music)

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I just watched this movie last night, and overall it was entertaining. No masterpiece but it was funny. I guess I liked the classic Kevin-Smith-Dick-And-Fart-Jokes style most of all. The actual romance story played out a bit cheesy. I don't know if it was a matter of the script or the actors themselves. I thought Seth Rogen did a great job though. Not too outside the box for him.

One of the things that really got me in this movie was THE sex scene. ...the one where Zack and Miri finally make the plunge. And it was all in the music. I almost shit myself when I heard it. This was a rare recording of the song "Hold Me Up" (previously referred to as "Lift Me Up") by Live. This was a B-Side to the album "Throwing Copper" (yes, you saw that right). The only version of this song that I had (or anyone really for that matter) was on a demo tape of Throwing Copper. The song suffers from some tape hiss and other analog problems, but it really is a great song. I was ecstatic when I saw the scene, not only was it a perfect choice for the scene, but it meant that a mastered recording was finally available!!!

So today, I searched Amazon for the soundtrack, and to my surprise the song IS NOT ON THE SOUNDTRACK. bah. Interestingly enough, Kevin Smith actually wanted this song for an earlier movie (IIRC, it was Clerks), but Live said NO. So Kevin harassed them again, and this time they said yes. I am really glad that it made it just for this movie, because it fits so well (and actually has a Pennsylvania connection to the movie. movie: Monroville, PA, band: York, PA).

Here is the scene with the song (Warning: MAJOR SPOILER. do not watch this clip if you haven't seen the movie):
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and here is the best version of the song that I think is available. It is from the demo tape of Throwing Copper: HOLD ME UP (improved version HERE)
 
OK, not sure if anyone cares but... I've made an attempt to clean up the song a bit. I am no audio engineer, but it surely is a bit nicer. HERE is the song.

And a link about the song/movie a bit more HERE
 
well done on finally finding the song! its always when you find something special.

i thought ZaMMaP ws great fun too (cant wait for the 2 disc edition with all the deleted scenes) but i thought they did handle the romance quite well at least it was much better than knocked up which i totally didnt believe at all.
 
did some quick digging, and found out that the song was first to appear in a Mallrats scene. Here is a response from Kevin Smith to a Live fan about the song:

Kevin Smith said:
Kevin Smith:
Ah, that song...

[name obscured], who was then our exec at MCA Music (later to become Universal Music), gave us the Live track Lift Me Up mixed in with a pile of music for soundtrack consideration. I loved it immediately - especially because it just... fit that wrap-up section of the movie. But a month later, when we were locking picture, we got word that Live wanted to hold onto that track. As much as I begged for Lift Me Up, the band's reps said they wanted to put it on their next album. So out of the movie it came.

Cut to circa... '99? 2000? Whenever that first Mallrats DVD came out. When we were putting it together, the only "long cut" of the movie I had was on this grainy-ass VHS (and maybe a BetaCam version, too - I can't recall how good that footage looked) - with picture and all tracks married together. but we didn't have the rights to use Lift Me Up. We'd re-approached Live about licensing the track for just that DVD release, hoping that since it'd never surfaced, that maybe they didn't feel as precious about the song any longer. But the word came back that they were still holding onto Lift Me Up - this time for a possible "Greatest Hits" collection. This meant we couldn't showcase the cut scenes the way we wanted to: the desire was to show go from that Trish/LaFours shot all the way to the credits, because there was cut stuff sprinkled throughout. Problem was Lift Me Up started with that Trish shot, then went all the way through to the "Where Are They Now" credits, when the Suzanne song kicked in. Without the rights to use the song, including that entire last seven-to-ten minutes of the flick was no longer an option. After much back-and-forth with MCA, they opted to let us include the Trish Easter Basket shot - even though it included a piece of Lift Me Up. It was a mightly nice thing for them to do, considering, technically, they didn't have the rights to include much more than six bars of the song. It didn't matter, though, as ultimately, the DVD came out, and no stink was made about the few seconds of Lift Me Up that was in there.

Cut to 2005? When the Mallrats 10th anniversary DVD came out. Since we'd re-inserted all that cut footage into the flick, the piece of Lift Me Up went away (the Belly song, as it was in the theatrical cut, scores that section).

Sadly, I lost the cassette that held Lift Me Up years ago. I have no copy of it. It's a shame, because it's a great song - and one they still haven't released/licensed. Every once in awhile, I go looking for it online, but to no avail. I wish they'd finally put it out there.

Interesting side note: we re-approached Live when we were cutting Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back and asked them if we could use Lift Me Up in that flick, but the band declined to let it go once again. Even six years after Mallrats, they were still waiting for what their reps called "the right moment" to release it as a single. How crazy is that?

Although, for all I know, maybe the band reps were just being political and Live just hated both Mallrats and "Strike Back" and were waiting for a better movie to request this little-heard gem.

Hope all that info helped.
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what an odd story....
I swear, big bands and (more so) record labels really have their heads up their asses.
I am not much of a Live fan, and I know mallrats was a flop so I understand holding it back for that film, but if the song is really that good, then releasing it in a Kevin Smith film would probably spark more interest and subsequent record sales from a band that I cant remember hearing anything from in almost 10 years - would'ntyathink?
At least they finally granted them the rights. :)
 
trust me, you don't want to hear anything from Live in the last 10 years. They quickly became TEH MEGA SUCK. yeah, record labels definitely have their heads up their asses. I just found this bit of info particularly interesting, and lends some insight into the crap one has to go through just to get a song in a movie.
 
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