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Joker (2019)

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Joaquin Phoenix is starring in an upcoming Joker origin story directed by Todd Phillips. The first teaser trailer was recently released.

 
Like I said in the 2019 movies thread. 

Junglist Paja said:
Love the teaser, not a big of the teal though

A fan poster I saw a while ago.

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^ This is the Joker thread, take that discussion to the Oker thread.
 
I put a little oker on that Joker ;)
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I wrote down some alternate titles for no reason.

Gotham Psycho
A Dangerous Smile
Breaking Oker
 
I'm super psyched to see this bad boy. Joaquin P is my man, the coolest thespian of our times, he adds nuance to his craziness. Say what you will about director Todd Phillips, I've seen all of his films, I'm not a hater but I was surprised when this was announced. If the director of "Dumb & Dumber" can beat out the director of "Anchorman" for Best Picture, then I guess it's possible that the director of "Road Trip" can make a great Joker movie.
 
Looks better than anything DCEU.

That's good!

Looks like a Nolanverse Joker origin story.

That's bad.
 
Duragizer said:
Looks better than anything DCEU.

That's good!

Looks like a Nolanverse Joker origin story.

That's bad.

But it comes with a free Frogurt!
 
I give zero shits about any of the comic universe, but this looks really cool.
 
yeah i couldn't care less for superhero films now, which is great. this looks like an anti-superherofilm, if it means anything. i think it'll be neat though. certainly looks great.
 
I really hope the marketing is misleading and this is more than a Taxi Driver remake dressed up in superhero clothes.
 
Moe_Syzlak said:
I really hope the marketing is misleading and this is more than a Taxi Driver remake dressed up in superhero clothes.

while i agree that it shouldn't be a remake, similarities are inevitable... both films are heavily focused on their main characters, and both happen to be psychologically deranged. but honestly i don't think it'll go any further than that.
 
oh, rupert pupkin, you've come a long way in this world :p
 
Saw this earlier today and was severely disappointed. This review sums up a lot of my feelings (contains implications of spoilers):


To add my own further thoughts:

So, the whole thing about how this movie claims that "society" is what creates this version of the Joker, that's really not the case. If anything, the prevalence of so many Joker Protestors in the movie show that a lot of people would be more than willing to align themselves with what A. Fleck seemingly stands for, i.e., dissatisfaction with the rich and society as a whole. With that in mind, wouldn't this movie be so much better if A. Fleck ran for Mayor in opposition of Thomas Wayne AS The Joker? Think of this cover, only less overt.
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Loved it. 8/10 for me, which is really good. Dark Knight is a 9/10, for perspective.
 
When this movie was announced, I was not a fan of it. I was of the [naive] belief that they should just stop trying the Joker, which [obviously] doesn’t make sense financially or marketing-wise. He’s a huge character, they’re gonna use him. Then, when the trailer/promo material came out: still doubtful. Intrigued, but doubtful. Pretty much kept this opinion until today. I believed that Joaquin Phoenix’ performance would be amazing regardless, but the movie would be bad-to-okay. Still, I was thrilled to see it, but I didn’t have high hopes, just high interest. Very glad I didn’t, because it made the movie all the more delightful.
Few things. (Spoilers ahead) 
  • Love the cinematography. Not just the framing, shot choices, lighting, and blocking of the scenes; but the actual lens itself is amazing, and the colour tone is perfect.
  • DeNiro seemed like he was enjoying this movie. Him happy and involved made me happy and involved.
  • I watched a review saying that his dancing was annoying/too frequent: I strongly disagree. It was funny to watch, added to the strangeness, and the accompaniment of the score made it worthwhile regardless.
  • Anyone else count seven shots in the subway? He shoots each guy once in the train, shoots the guy once as he’s running away, then three more times to finish him off. My dad and I both thought this had to be intentional when it first happened - it’s a very common thing to show we are in the perspective of an unreliable narrator (as per American Psycho). But that scene seems to be fully accurate throughout the rest of the film. Not sure if it was a sloppy moment of direction (or whoever is in charges of counting bullets...), or an actual nod to something.
  • Bruce going down the “bat pole” was awesome.
  • Love how every movie set in Gotham just disregards “normal people” in terms of crime/societal norms.
  • I only wish the credits rolled directly after the car dancing scene. Keep the laugh (how could ya not), but the hospital portion was unnecessary and I think the car dancing left things more open. Luckily they left it open enough anyways, but as soon as it faded to black, I feared there was more to come.

But, ho-ly shit. That was a film. I don’t know how to put it into words, but the quality and direction of this movie puts it in that special “film” tier for me.
 
macmilln said:
Loved it. 8/10 for me, which is really good. Dark Knight is a 9/10, for perspective.
 
When this movie was announced, I was not a fan of it. I was of the [naive] belief that they should just stop trying the Joker, which [obviously] doesn’t make sense financially or marketing-wise. He’s a huge character, they’re gonna use him. Then, when the trailer/promo material came out: still doubtful. Intrigued, but doubtful. Pretty much kept this opinion until today. I believed that Joaquin Phoenix’ performance would be amazing regardless, but the movie would be bad-to-okay. Still, I was thrilled to see it, but I didn’t have high hopes, just high interest. Very glad I didn’t, because it made the movie all the more delightful.
Few things. (Spoilers ahead) 
  • Love the cinematography. Not just the framing, shot choices, lighting, and blocking of the scenes; but the actual lens itself is amazing, and the colour tone is perfect.
  • DeNiro seemed like he was enjoying this movie. Him happy and involved made me happy and involved.
  • I watched a review saying that his dancing was annoying/too frequent: I strongly disagree. It was funny to watch, added to the strangeness, and the accompaniment of the score made it worthwhile regardless.
  • Anyone else count seven shots in the subway? He shoots each guy once in the train, shoots the guy once as he’s running away, then three more times to finish him off. My dad and I both thought this had to be intentional when it first happened - it’s a very common thing to show we are in the perspective of an unreliable narrator (as per American Psycho). But that scene seems to be fully accurate throughout the rest of the film. Not sure if it was a sloppy moment of direction (or whoever is in charges of counting bullets...), or an actual nod to something.
  • Bruce going down the “bat pole” was awesome.
  • Love how every movie set in Gotham just disregards “normal people” in terms of crime/societal norms.
  • I only wish the credits rolled directly after the car dancing scene. Keep the laugh (how could ya not), but the hospital portion was unnecessary and I think the car dancing left things more open. Luckily they left it open enough anyways, but as soon as it faded to black, I feared there was more to come.

But, ho-ly shit. That was a film. I don’t know how to put it into words, but the quality and direction of this movie puts it in that special “film” tier for me.

Find myself agreeing with this, despite being extremely sceptical beforehand. Phoenix is incredible!!
 
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