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I've had difficulty ripping two Spider-Man movies, one of them stopped processing at around 8%, the other ripped succesfully but was out of synch. @"addiesin" suggested that it could be due to specific DRMs Sony had included on the discs. Any way around this problem?
 

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What specific spiderman movies?
 

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Also, please be specific about which versions of the discs you own, and the software that you are using to attempt to rip the discs.
 

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Spider-Man 1 and 3 were the movies, region 2, DVD-PAL, and the ripper  is AVC (Any Video Converter)
 

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What program is it out of sync on?
 

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ThrowgnCpr said:
I have no familiarity with AVC. Try the latest version of HD Decrypter and see if you have the same problems: https://www.dvdfab.cn/free.htm

That worked much better. I used the trial version to be on the safe side so I wound up with a watermark, but I'll fork out the money for this.

DigModiFicaTion said:
What program is it out of sync on?

Just the standard media player I use.
 

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Zarius said:
ThrowgnCpr said:
I have no familiarity with AVC. Try the latest version of HD Decrypter and see if you have the same problems: https://www.dvdfab.cn/free.htm

That worked much better. I used the trial version to be on the safe side so I wound up with a watermark, but I'll fork out the money for this.

HD Decrypter is the free version. If you installed the "DVDFab DVD Copy and Blu-ray Copy" version, then that is pay and there will be a watermark. For simply copying the disc folders to your PC and stripping copy protection, the free Decrypter version is more than sufficient.
 

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I'm pretty sure I did download the encryptor the first time but it just kept taking me to the trial version, which then expired after I ripped the films, which got me the watermark. What am I doing wrong?
 

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I did download the HD Decryptor, but it just kept directing me to trial mode on DVDFAB
 

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Zarius said:
I did download the HD Decryptor, but it just kept directing me to trial mode on DVDFAB

yes, that is unfortunately how the stupid installer works, but if you use the copy feature (not ripper, converter, etc), that will work as Decrypter without the watermark.  This will copy the disc folders to your HDD without DRM. You will need to use another tool to extract the streams of your movie. A slightly outdated, but still relevant set of instructions on this is available in my guide.

I wish they would just have a standalone Decrypter version.
 

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I had a hunch about the copy feature, but wasn't sure. Thanks, I'll give it a comb over.
 

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You might also want to try out some other free options.

DVD Shrink copies and rips a lot of older DVDs without any need for extra decryption.

There's also an excellent frequently-updated DVD/Blu-ray ripping program called MakeMKV that's free as long as it's in its beta phase (which it has been for years). The only catch is that its license codes expire after a set amount of time (you are allowed to get a new license code each time in order to keep using it, but it can be a bit of a hassle), unless you pay a one-time fee for a permanent code.
 

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^ good suggestions, but since he is having DRM issues with specific, fairly recent DVDs, DVD Shrink probably won't be much help.

AnyDVD is another effective option, but that is also pay (and not very cheap...).
 

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ThrowgnCpr said:
^ good suggestions, but since he is having DRM issues with specific, fairly recent DVDs, DVD Shrink probably won't be much help.

Unless he has a new remaster that I'm not aware of, the DVDs of the first and third Spider-Man movies aren't all that recent. Those discs were probably mastered over a decade ago.
 

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MakeMKV can also rip and decrypt directly to your drive with no conversion. Just use the Backup option.
 

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hbenthow said:
Unless he has a new remaster that I'm not aware of, the DVDs of the first and third Spider-Man movies aren't all that recent. Those discs were probably mastered over a decade ago.

Good point. It's worth a shot anyway. It's always good to have extra tools in your arsenal.
 

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For DVDs you really shouldn't run into DRM issues anymore. I use dvdshrink and dvd deceyptor. Both are free on videohelp. DVD Shrink allows you to rip as a single Vob file as well.
 

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A note on DVD Shrink: I used it all the time, in spite of people here saying it wasn't a good option, just because the interface was so user-friendly. But I found out last year, when talking with someone over my long-in-gestation Narnia edit, that the constant image squishing problem I had run into was because of that program. The poster pointed out that it's right in the name -- DVD Shrink -- which I assumed meant that it would create a smaller file size, not that it would actually shrink the image. Who would possibly consider that a good feature?

Since then, I haven't used DVD Shrink and I don't recommend it for others. When I finally feel like I can start the Narnia edit from scratch yet again, I'm going to use the ripping software built into my editing program and hope for the best.

Anyway, it sounds like others have suggested some really good options here.
 

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TomH1138 said:
A note on DVD Shrink: I used it all the time, in spite of people here saying it wasn't a good option, just because the interface was so user-friendly. But I found out last year, when talking with someone over my long-in-gestation Narnia edit, that the constant image squishing problem I had run into was because of that program. The poster pointed out that it's right in the name -- DVD Shrink -- which I assumed meant that it would create a smaller file size, not that it would actually shrink the image. Who would possibly consider that a good feature?

Since then, I haven't used DVD Shrink and I don't recommend it for others. When I finally feel like I can start the Narnia edit from scratch yet again, I'm going to use the ripping software built into my editing program and hope for the best.

Anyway, it sounds like others have suggested some really good options here.

I think that you misunderstand the program and the nature of DVD video. If you set DVD Shrink to DVD9 output, there will be no compression applied. In settings smaller than DVD9, it applies compression to shrink the file size (provided that the file size of the DVD is larger than the selected target size), which does lessen video quality, but doesn't change the aspect ratio or distort the image. A lot of the time, DVD images are anamorphic (because the DVD format doesn't support true widescreen video - 16:9 images have to be converted to 4:3), which means that they are already "squished" on the disc and depend on software to "unsquish" them during playback. Sometimes, ripping the disc (such as with DVD Shrink) causes the resulting file on your hard drive to play "squished" rather than signaling your software to adjust the aspect ratio. This is not a problem if you simply set your video playback or editing software to adjust the aspect ratio to what it needs to be.

Also keep in mind that there is an option within DVD Shrink to either split the video files into 1 GB chunks or leave them in one piece. If you are ripping a disc in order to make a fanedit, always uncheck the setting to split the files.
 
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