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Movies That Never Should Have Had A Sequel
#21
It stands fine on its own, obviously The Matrix itself still exists at the end of the original film but it didn't necessarily need a sequel even though the ending suggests there could be one. Its very similar to the ending of Star Wars I'd say in that the Death Star has been destroyed but the Empire and Darth Vader are still at large but we now have 'A New Hope'.  Had Star Wars flopped and never had sequels it still feels like a complete film and the story has been told.
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#22
I really enjoy the sequel fanedits though, there's a lot of good material that lets you work around the bad.  For that alone I'm glad they exist.

And when I hear "movies that never should have had a sequel" that's a different thing than "movies that worked fine without a sequel."  Robbing me of T2, Aliens, or ESB/ROTJ/TFA/TLJ is crazy talk imo.
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#23
(02-22-2019, 09:27 AM)TVs Frink Wrote: And when I hear "movies that never should have had a sequel" that's a different thing than "movies that worked fine without a sequel."  Robbing me of T2, Aliens, or ESB/ROTJ/TFA/TLJ is crazy talk imo.

Yes with 'The Matrix' what I really mean is movies which should have had much better sequels. The potential and scope was there,  it will definitely be rebooted at some point of that I'm sure it's actually something I would be keen to see a reboot of in the right hands, that's not The Wachowski's though sadly...
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#24
(02-22-2019, 05:06 AM)TMBTM Wrote: The Terminator is a perfect loop story where the goal is not to change the future but to make it happen the way it should be (the whole story itself implies that nothing can be changed) . So as soon as you start to play with different timelines, you're fucked, because it is supposed to be a serious movie, not a a BTTF where you can do anything just for the fun of it.

Exactly. The problem is that Terminator 2 is so damn good that we all just happily ignore that it ruins the whole concept.


(02-22-2019, 05:06 AM)TMBTM Wrote: I don't think of one single sequel/prequel that makes me like the original less.

Generally I agree, the original is always there. Except for this franchise:

(02-22-2019, 06:29 AM)Sinbad Wrote: The Matrix

The sequels remove all the unresolved mystery from the first film's premise, they also make it boring, but worst of all in trying to explain (and over explain) all the stuff that was not explained in the first movie, they revealed that it was kinda nonsense. A quest to forcefully awaken millions of blissfully ignorant people from their Matrix slumber, just because you personally have a problem with it, thus ensuring almost all of these millions would either drown, or slowly succumb to starvation, confused, terrifying deaths and the few that did survive would have decades/centuries of miserable existence on a bleak post-apocalyptic planet. The Matrix "heroes" are kind of a**holes when you think about Big Grin . I preferred when we just had one movie and I had not thought about it. I remember the feeling of cliffhanger excitement that the end of The Matrix left me with in 1999, I will never quite get that back, even though the film is still there to watch and enjoy.
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#25
(02-22-2019, 09:27 AM)TVs Frink Wrote: I really enjoy the sequel fanedits though, there's a lot of good material that lets you work around the bad.  For that alone I'm glad they exist.

Yep. Jerick's Decoded edit is excellent.
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#26
I feel I've gotten to the point where yes, Star Wars should've been 1 film. Burn the whole enterprise to the down so I don't have to deal with so many over-zealous, overly entitled fans who won't shut up about why you're wrong/stupid for liking "X."
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#27
You don't have to deal with any of them anyway.  Just ignore it.
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#28
(02-22-2019, 05:24 PM)Nic Wrote: Star Wars should've been 1 film. Burn the whole enterprise to the down 

Wrong franchise. Perhaps you want to burn down the Millennium Falcon Tongue
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#29
(02-22-2019, 05:36 PM)TVs Frink Wrote: Just ignore it.

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#30
(02-22-2019, 05:38 PM)ThrowgnCpr Wrote:
(02-22-2019, 05:24 PM)Nic Wrote: Star Wars should've been 1 film. Burn the whole enterprise to the down 

Wrong franchise. Perhaps you want to burn down the Millennium Falcon Tongue

Just realized I was so angry that I wrote "to the down" instead of "to the ground." Whoops.
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