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Nic said:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-widow-solo-movie-sets-writer-1073804

It's about damn time. I just hope that it's set in the past like the Captain Marvel movie, so it doesn't toatally kill any tension revolving around her character during The next two Avengers movies.

I've said since Phase 1 I'd like to see a relatively low budget origin movie for her, where maybe Scarlett Johansen is in it, but maybe it's the initiation into the place that trains her and she's played by a younger (cheaper) actress on a spy mission, Scarlett could show up for bookends. Could be fun.

Or make that the prequel sequel to a proper Scarlett solo movie where she's taking on the former KGB Hydra people or something. Just make sure it's a spy movie, secret Hollywood producer browsing this thread.
 

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The obvious way to go about it, imo, would be ScarJo Widow fighting ex-KGB dudes and uncovering some of their more egregious experiments. These directly tie in with flashbacks of her training with a younger actor.

Throw in the Winter Soldier somewhere. You have a decent Bond-esque flick.
 

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Zamros said:
The obvious way to go about it, imo, would be ScarJo Widow fighting ex-KGB dudes and uncovering some of their more egregious experiments. These directly tie in with flashbacks of her training with a younger actor.

Throw in the Winter Soldier somewhere. You have a decent Bond-esque flick.

Also, throw in some Hawkeye for good measure. Maybe he's a guy she has to seduce, only for her to find out he's a field agent for SHIELD. Also, given how Widow in The Winter Soldier said she left the KGB for SHIELD, I would love to explore the alternate history of the MCU where the KGB exists in the 2000s. Remmeber, Black Widow was born in 1984, so she should be 34 for Infinity War.
 

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Zamros said:
The obvious way to go about it, imo, would be ScarJo Widow fighting ex-KGB dudes and uncovering some of their more egregious experiments. These directly tie in with flashbacks of her training with a younger actor.

Throw in the Winter Soldier somewhere. You have a decent Bond-esque flick.

Yeah that's better, it's like a combo. You know where it could take place...

Budapest! Could have Hawkeye, Bucky, even Fury. It could be her Shield recruitment, with flashbacks for her Black Widow training recruitment, that'd tie together nicely.
 

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addiesin said:
Yeah that's better, it's like a combo. You know where it could take place...

Budapest! Could have Hawkeye, Bucky, even Fury. It could be her Shield recruitment, with flashbacks for her Black Widow training recruitment, that'd tie together nicely.

So Romanoff was born in 1984, meaning she would have been 7 when the Soviet Union fell.

I was always confused by the line about Budapest, but it would make sense if the event in questions takes place in 2006. During this time, Hungary's Socialist Party was facing a people's rebellion following a confession that they had lied to win the election.

We could assume that Romanoff remained a Soviet sleeper agent after the fall of the iron curtain, sowing seeds of the old order back in with the new. The election of a fraudulent socialist government seems exactly the sort of thing Widow would seek to be doing.

This would be a few years before Iron Man, so Widow has plenty of time to integrate with SHIELD.
 

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Take it one step further, it might be neat to see Hawkeye take on the traditional "Bond girl" role at some point, if only for awhile.

Also, I wonder if this film will reveal that Hawkeye has ear implants (like in the comics) because Widow deafens him At some point. Then, it turns out that th implants greatly improve his skills at the bow (allowing him to make shots no one else could) and show the audience why he's an Avenger.

But then, I'm talking more about Hawkeye than Widow, and I don't want her overshadowed in her own movie, either.
 

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I don't think they'll do a romantic past relationship with his character, or any kind of seduction, at least not between those two; he's married and she's close friends with his wife. They definitely don't act like exes and I think there would be heavy backlash considering he's one of the only OG Avengers that hasn't either objectified her or shared an onscreen kids with her.
 

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jamieereynoldss said:
Nic said:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-widow-solo-movie-sets-writer-1073804

It's about damn time. I just hope that it's set in the past like the Captain Marvel movie, so it doesn't toatally kill any tension revolving around her character during The next two Avengers movies.

I like her because her body is resistant to aging and disease.
In addition, she is very clever, she has a developed intellect, and in addition to everything she has excellent skills in martial art.
I once had to write an essay about her, I turned to online service, it was a great job. Then I realized that this character is worthy of attention. After that, I started watching Marvel.

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Nic said:
Zamros said:
The obvious way to go about it, imo, would be ScarJo Widow fighting ex-KGB dudes and uncovering some of their more egregious experiments. These directly tie in with flashbacks of her training with a younger actor.

Throw in the Winter Soldier somewhere. You have a decent Bond-esque flick.

Also, throw in some Hawkeye for good measure. Maybe he's a guy she has to seduce, only for her to find out he's a field agent for SHIELD. Also, given how Widow in The Winter Soldier said she left the KGB for SHIELD, I would love to explore the alternate history of the MCU where the KGB exists in the 2000s. Remmeber, Black Widow was born in 1984, so she should be 34 for Infinity War.

It's not alternate, it's just simplified for people who don't know.  The KGB does exist, serving pretty much the same functions, with all the same people.  It was "disbanded" for political cover, but was reformed shortly after.  It has been called a few different organizations, the most well-known being the FSK.  Nowadays, under Putin, it's known as the Federalnaya Sluzhba Bezopasnosti (FSB) and it is in full effect.  (Don't forget that Putin served with The First Directorate of the KGB, and was stationed in East Berlin though the fall of the Wall.  He absolutely will have all his people around him.)
 

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Okay, MCU fans, Mulan has thrown down the gauntlet: would you pay $30 for permanent access to Black Widow - but only if you have an active Disney+ subscription? Keep in mind that Disney+ no longer offers a free trial, so that'd actually be a $37 investment for unwashed heathens such as myself. 

I've got three people in my household who'd watch it, so a $30 rental seems relatively sensible, but $37... nah, that's too much. Not with The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and The Mandalorian S2 still unavailable. I guess that makes $30 my limit, and, for that kind of money, I'd prefer a bundled 24-hour rental and pre-order of the Blu-ray. :p
 

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^I feel like streaming services are catching on to this idea that financially a lot of families spend a crapload of money going to the theater, so exorbitant streaming prices seem like a deal to them.  But for a single dude still gunning for promotions, even paying $15/month for Netflix seems like a poor use of money.  That's 15 viewings at the dollar theater!  
If we keep paying more and more for non-physical "ownership" or even just viewings, then they'll keep charging more and more... and then theaters will charge more to keep up, and then physical media will figure they can charge more, and then..and then...
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I don’t know much about the actual business of movies/movie exhibition, but it seems to me that this model may work during COVID times. But will theaters start punishing studios that forgo the theater? Now I’m not a big MCU fan so I wouldn’t see this in the theater anyway. I waited for a plane flight to watch Endgame. But I’d definitely drop that kind of money for Tenet or Dune. But I’d much rather see them in the theater when that’s safe.
 

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I don't think theaters have much power to punish studios.  The very biggest chains, maybe.  But it seems it's often big studios that can boss the theaters around.  I remember Tarantino complaining when he opened Hateful 8 (I believe it was) that he couldn't get it shown where/when he wanted it because certain screens were being locked down by certain studios.  I'm sure theaters would've negotiated with Tarantino if they were the ones calling shots.  
To me, ratcheting up streaming prices is another step towards theater extinction.  :(
 

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$37 seems like crazy money to me. Just wait a few months and buy it on blu-ray for $15, then spend the other $22 on overpriced popcorn, snacks and drinks to create that cinema experience :D .
 

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We already subscribe to Disney Plus so it would be $30. We’ve done a couple of the direct to PPV already during the lockdown. I know the Trolls movie was one. A movie like Tenet or Dune would be just for my wife and me, or perhaps invite over some friends if they were interested. But let’s call it $15. That’s a cheap ticket at a theater for us if you include parking and the markup on beer and wine, let alone a sitter. That said, those are movies I’d much rather see in the theater.
 

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TM2YC said:
$37 seems like crazy money to me. Just wait a few months and buy it on blu-ray for $15, then spend the other $22 on overpriced popcorn, snacks and drinks to create that cinema experience :D .

I wholeheartedly agree; the new $30+ experiment is a little beyond reasonable.
 

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Waiting for this movie has been a very frustrating process. Every time a new release date is announced, it gets pushed back yet again.

The first teaser was released on December 3, 2019:


On January 14, 2020, the Legacy Featurette was released;


On March 9, 2020, the "Final Trailer" was released:


But since the movie was pushed back so often, Marvel's YouTube channel eventually changed "Final Trailer" to "Official Trailer" in the video's title.

Now that the movie has a final(?) release date of July 9, marketing for it has been ratcheting back up again.

Here's the new trailer:


And here are two promotional featurettes (one with Scarlett Johansson and one with Rachel Weisz):


There are also some clips of the movie in this recent promo for Marvel's Phase 4:


In other news, Olga Kurylenko and Julia Louis-Dreyfus have both been confirmed to appear in the movie in some capacity. (Dreyfus' appearance was meant to be her character's MCU introduction, but she wound up appearing in "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier" first due to the release order of the two projects getting switched around.)
 

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$37 seems like crazy money to me. Just wait a few months and buy it on blu-ray for $15, then spend the other $22 on overpriced popcorn, snacks and drinks to create that cinema experience :D .

I agree completely. I absolutely refuse to pay the exorbitant amounts they're charging just to rent a new theatrical release. I'd rather just wait it out and pay 5$ to rent it from Cineplex once it's no longer new, or wait a little longer and watch it for free on Amazon Prime. I think these high rental prices are just going to turn more people into pirates.
 

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WB and Paramount have the right idea. WB doing a simultaneous release this year on HBOMAX has been a great deal for a film fan like me. They have already said they will be switching to a 45 day theatrical window like other studios have so while this may only last a year its been a great experiment. Paramount is going to be switching to a 45 day theatrical window immediately with their films hitting Paramount+ thereafter, which to me seems to me seems like a happy medium to allow fans to see the films at home while also incentivizing people to go out to the theaters as well.
 
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