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Disney planning to buy Fox
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(01-04-2018, 04:36 PM)ThrowgnCpr Wrote:
(01-04-2018, 04:32 PM)addiesin Wrote: Should the thread not be titled "Disney Bought Fox"?

Isn't the deal over?

The deal is done, but did it pass trade commission investigation?

That I do not know.
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#22
^ I hear that two Jedi have been dispatched to mediate the dispute...
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(01-04-2018, 04:52 PM)Gaith Wrote: ^ I hear that two Jedi have been dispatched to mediate the dispute...

I sense an unusual amount of fear in this thread for something as trivial as a corporate acquisition.
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(01-04-2018, 05:04 PM)Moe_Syzlak Wrote:
(01-04-2018, 04:52 PM)Gaith Wrote: ^ I hear that two Jedi have been dispatched to mediate the dispute...

I sense an unusual amount of fear in this thread for something as trivial as a corporate acquisition.

These Hollywood types are cowards, negotiations will be short.
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(01-04-2018, 05:48 PM)Zamros Wrote:
(01-04-2018, 05:04 PM)Moe_Syzlak Wrote:
(01-04-2018, 04:52 PM)Gaith Wrote: ^ I hear that two Jedi have been dispatched to mediate the dispute...

I sense an unusual amount of fear in this thread for something as trivial as a corporate acquisition.

These Hollywood types are cowards, negotiations will be short.

You were right about one thing, Zamros - but tell you, I will not.
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(01-04-2018, 03:47 PM)ThrowgnCpr Wrote:
(01-04-2018, 03:44 PM)The Scribbling Man Wrote: Porg spin-offs heading our way...

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Poor Brian, he wants so many things.
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#27
Interestingly, I actually have skin in this game as I work for a company that Fox are in the process of trying to acquire outright. That process has taken over a year now because of government oversight. In the end Disney will own us, or the share Fox currently own if the government says no.

We've heard that the Disney buy out will take about a year to finalise (the Fox buyout of us being decided in the summer). Negotiations are done, but the US government will want to have a look at it, and the legal stuff will need to be written, checked, and double checked.

I know nothing of trademarks, but I imagine they'll keep the 20th Century Fox brand for movies and TV. Fox News and Fox Sports will keep their branding.

Personally, I'd rather be part of Disney than Fox, but that has nothing to do with films and fictional tv.
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#28
Wow, a lot of really interesting responses! Thanks to everyone for making this such a lively topic!

Zamros, I do agree with you about "quality over quantity." Fewer superhero movies isn't inherently a bad thing. I guess my thinking there was more along the lines of: "Do X-Men fans really understand what they're pushing for?" 

That said, the comments from Jodie Foster and others in the industry -- sentiments along the lines of "Superhero movies are ruining the film industry" -- strike me as absurd. I don't mind the average person saying a thing like that, but somebody who works in the industry ought to know the history. There's always one genre that does better at the box office than anything else during a given time, and there's always a glut of films made in that genre during its peak period: Westerns, musicals, outer-space movies, spy movies, epic fantasies. Right now it's superhero movies' turn. Eliminating all superhero movies tomorrow wouldn't raise the level of art coming out of cinema; there would just be another popular genre to take its place (and eventually there will be).

I'm surprised that so many people in the thread don't like the MCU and think that they'll ruin the X-Men (although they're entitled to that). Not every film that comes out of the MCU is a masterpiece, but they have a higher batting average than anyone else I know. And even in this last year, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Spider-Man: Homecoming, and Thor: Ragnarok are all high water marks for the franchise, with the latter not only being considered the best Thor movie, but (in many things I've read) the best MCU movie, period. I wish any of the other franchises that I like could be that consistent after so long!

(But again, I'm still glad people shared alternate opinions. It's always fascinating to see responses that one isn't expecting. When I originally posted about the Disney-Fox merger on my blog, everyone said, "Yeah, but the X-Men movies are gonna be amazing," so I made sure to address that up front this time -- only to find that many people here don't agree! With a different mix of people, it's always interesting to see the different directions a discussion will go.)

addiesin, Disney and Fox have both agreed to the terms of the deal, but it will take between a year and 18 months for the deal to be finalized -- and that's assuming that it passes the trade commission investigation. (And thanks to DSM2337 for his insider knowledge that helps clear things up a bit more!)

In the meantime, if the deal does go through, let me leave you with a list of bizarre titles that would technically be true, even if we never actually see them branded that way:


"Disney's Married...with Children."

"Disney's Planet of the Apes."

"Disney's The X-Files."
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(01-04-2018, 03:40 PM)addiesin Wrote: In my opinion, it is somewhat of a trade-off. Disney's Marvel films are consistent. You know what to expect, just about every time. In a way it's similar to their in-house animation studio or Pixar. With WB, Sony, and Fox, superhero films are still a gamble. Their best movies tend to be better than Marvel's best, but their overall bar and average quality level is lower. 

That said, Marvel has already announced they're still doing Deadpool movies etc. So no reason to be too sour about it from the audience perspective. From the business side, big companies merging and consolidating is pretty scary, I agree.

THAT said, this IS the golden age of superhero films. I am a BIG FAN of superhero films. I have been in what can essentially be described as 'movie heaven' for about a decade and a half, and I realize that it will end some time, as all things must. This could conceivably be seen as a step toward that end. This is a strangely specific time to live in, where people still crave basic action movies with a side of humor, but expect complicated special effects, and have been conditioned to connect those things with capes and codenames. If it wasn't for superhero movies, I think we'd be in the same place, with people complaining about a different subset of action films ruining the market.

All I can say to those who are not fans is, your time too will come. For example; Throw, I'm sure some day bird movies will get really big.  Wink

Just wanted to add, thank you for this, and I agree with everything in it. Big Grin
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#30
Do you think they'll rename to rebrand? 

21st Century Mouse?




OR do you think what's left of Fox will rename itself Murdoch News (or something similar) so Disney can keep the Fox name?
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