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The ARROWVERSE (Flash, Arrow, Supergirl, Legends,etc)

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Gaith said:
Speaking of costumes...

The original outfit was much better.

#RestoretheChinStrap

Actually, I have gotten quite used to it.  I admit that particular photo is not very flattering, but the new suit looks really good in action sequences and I do not even notice the missing chin strap anymore.   I got to give credit to the producers for having the courage to go with a spandex style suit, which makes total sense for a runner, and looks exceptionally comic book accurate.
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Next week is The Flash's 100th episode, looks like there will be some time travel shenanigans and appearances of Big Bads of the Past...
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_xGYeyCmak[/video]
 

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WOWZERS!!!!

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bryH6PVAbo[/video]

One week to go....! :D
 

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Cool, he looks close enough to pass as the same suit. Or at least a very slightly modified one. Does this pull the 90s show into continuity? OMG Earth 90 I just got it.  :)
 

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addiesin said:
Cool, he looks close enough to pass as the same suit. Or at least a very slightly modified one. Does this pull the 90s show into continuity? OMG Earth 90 I just got it.  :)

In season two, when Barry, Harry and Cisco travelled to Earth-2, while in the Speed Force, we caught a glimpse of 1990 Flash.  So yes, for me at least, 1990 Flash is Arrowverse canon.   In fact, when I started creating my own Arrowverse dvd art, I included the 1990 series....
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Now, if they are saying he is from Earth-90, and last season Harry said there was only 53 Earths, and now we have the appearance of the Monitor, are the producers going to perhaps suggest there was once INFINITE EARTHS....? :p
 

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bionicbob said:
WOWZERS!!!!

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bryH6PVAbo[/video]

One week to go....! :D

Party like it's 1990! Wonder what other references will be in there or if in future other DC TV/film vets will be able to reprise their roles?
 

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This coming Sunday is the big annual crossover, with most the shows having aired their mid-season finales (Legends is next week) this week.  So 8-9 episodes in, how are our various series doing this season?

FLASH -- Remains my favourite.  Cicada as a villain is decent, and much like with the Thinker, the producers have done a nice job fleshing out the character so he is not completely one dimensional/pure evil.  Though it is clear now he is not the Big Bad.  I have really enjoyed the Nora plot line so far, the family dynamic with Barry and Iris balances humour and drama nicely.  The 100th episode was a blast (though not logical as usual lol) revisiting key moments from the past and it was also a good reminder to viewers that this entire show (and therefore the entire Arrowverse) is in its self an Alternate Timeline.  Which may explain why Thawne did not recognize Nora and mistakenly called her Dawn?  Or is he playing the Long Con?  

ARROW -- Ollie's prison arc (the legal system makes absolutely no sense in this show lol :p ) came to a close in perhaps the most violent, action packed and bloody episode the series has ever produced!  Why this show does not win an Emmy for Stunt Work is beyond me.  But Amell's performance throughout this plot line was stellar.  The series still struggles to balance what to do with the rest of the cast, but I am enjoying the evolution of Rene as the voice of the common people.   The Flash Forwards.  What to say?  Producers insist this a permanent element of the show from now on.  While interesting, and it does generate some new mystery, what is the point of it?  As it detracts story time from the main cast and weakens potential tension when you see most your characters will still be alive in 20 years.  Will this at some point connect to the present storyline via Time Travel? Are the producers setting up their own Days of Future Past?  Despite this, this seasons first third is much stronger than last seasons with greater emphasis on character over heroics.   Oh, and the reveal of the new Green Arrow -- not a true surprise for comic readers, but very enjoyable.

SUPERGIRL -- Significant improvement in the use of it's full ensemble, particularly with Olsen.  Though Mercy Graves and Otis were cut surprisingly short, which I think was a mistake as they brought some fun moustache twirling villainy that the show desperately needs now and then.  The storyline continues to be political, becoming increasingly darker and depressing.   I give it kudos for this, though I would love an occasional simple stand alone heroic/hopeful superhero vs supervillain episodes.   I would also like to see Supergirl drive/lead the story more.  My hope by "firing" her from the DEO, Supergirl can step out of their shadow and be more of a Leader.  How will the producers resolve this season story arc and put the genie back in the bottle?  I suspect Human Villains will be the season ender threat with Aliens uniting to save the Earth?  Though what role the Russian Supergirl doppelgänger will play has yet to be revealed.

LEGENDS OF TOMORROW -- Apparently doing the weakest in the ratings (pairing it with Arrow I think is a mistake) it is easily the show that is the most fun to watch each week.  The producers have really hit their stride with this show, balancing dramatic character moments against goofy magical plots and hilarious situations without losing a sense of tension or jeopardy.  And amazingly, almost every episode has moment of genuine clever surprise that can shock you or make you roar with laughter.  This show has come a long way from its melodramatic first season.  

Next week, "there is a Crisis coming..."
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vho3Rwbuu_o[/video]
 

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So this poster dropped a few days ago....

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Much speculation who or what the robot looking guy is beside Ollie/Flash?

Some saying it's Amazo.  Other rumour its the main villain John Deegan.

I can not but help notice the basic design and colour scheme is similar to the Monitor, making me wonder if it is the Anti-Monitor?
 

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http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUCCtkGitSc[/video]

While apparently a "smaller" crossover this year (no LEGENDS), I have to wonder if this is the most expensive?
The cost of making new suits (Batwoman, Monitor, 90 Flash) is very pricy, especially on a weekly tv budget.
Plus, they went on location to Chicago for some of the Gotham scenes.
 

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bionicbob said:
The cost of making new suits (Batwoman, Monitor, 90 Flash) is very pricy, especially on a weekly tv budget.

Not to mention the body types of Amell and Gustin are totally different, they're probably both wearing brand new suits too, tailored for them but in each other's current style, probably multiple versions made for different scenes, stunt doubles, etc. And all the dead characters shown and their variant suits.
 

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Nice article in USA today....
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life...cw-elseworlds-superhero-crossover/2216530002/

[font=arial, sans-serif]The crossover has lasting consequences.[/font]

[font=arial, sans-serif]Unlike the previous multi-episode affairs, “Elseworlds" affects the characters of each show going forward, and Benoist reveals it will carry into the 2019 crossover. Amell says it’s leading somewhere, “and if you're a big comic-book fan, you'll be able to at least theorize about where that could be.” Guggenheim advises viewers to pay attention to the last line of dialogue: “We drop the hammer and it’s really cool.”[/font]

Nerdgasm.... CRISIS ON FREAKING INFINITE EARTHS!!!!   :D

The Flash has sort of been teasing this plot line this season, since the Nora arc revolves around her losing her father to a Crisis in 2024.  Now since Thawne altered the timeline to create the Flash 5 years earlier, that could mean the Crisis could occur 5 years earlier too, putting it squarely in the 2019 season.  Plus, next year is Amell's last contracted season, so I could see the producers wanting to tackle this one in case Arrow does not return for season 9.

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHxum69AC5w[/video]
Hilarious!!! 
 

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THE FLASH "Elseworlds Part 1"

...just some quick observations/notes... SPOILERS....
--BOOM!!! Monitor and Deegan right out of the gate and we are off to the races!
--it's a Quantum Leap Buddy Comedy!!! And it works wonderfully!!
--writers obviously taking great joy poking fun at their characters lol
--the Pipeline DOES have a bathroom!!!
--for all the comedy, some very nice introspective moments for Barry, Ollie, Kara and Clark
--Smallville theme song!
--hhmmm..... mysterious cryptic interrupted conversation... what does Clark need to tell Kara?
--Ivo Labs and A.M.A.Z.O., though why was Ivo's ship also called Amazo???
--While the new spandex Flash suit looks great on Gusten, Amell looks awkward lol
--hated the Sherloque Wells alimony cheque gag
--Red skies and yellow lightning!!!  CRISIS!
--Other than the body swap, this episode is very stand alone and reveals little of the greater Deegan/Monitor threat.  Instead the episode has fun exploring the differences of Ollie and Barry's characters and the worlds they inhabit.

Awesome episode!  Smiled from beginning to end.  Tonight, our heroes travel to Gotham City!!!

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jaXMWCJUNA[/video]
 

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I missed it, I completely forgot. 
I'm not an active watcher of these shows, but I love what I've seen, and my sister watches them and keeps me updated. We were going to watch this crossover together but I guess we didn't last night. Hopefully we can find time to watch it before tonight.
 

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ARROW "Elseworlds Part 2"

SPOILERS!!  :p

--And the good times continue!
--Ravager (son of Deathstroke) returns... but why don't the AGUS guys ever go for the head shot? lol
--still lots of laughs, but of course this is Arrow, so you gotta have serious darker moments of the Olicity story
--So Gotham is basically a dead city on Earth-1, what Star City could have become.... Batman/Bruce Wayne has been missing for three years on Earth-1, though from an Arrowverse continuity stand point, I think it would have been better to say seven years, to explain how Batman could be considered an urban legend during Oliver's time as Green Arrow.
--Hilarious how Ollie is jealous that he might not be the original badass vigilante.
--Seems clear to me that there is a Batman on BOTH Earth-1 and Earth-38 based on Kara's comments
--the Shakespeare bust from the Adam West series LOL
--loved the Arkham cell block roll call
--Scarecrow fear gas!!!  And surprise villain cameos!!!  Awesomeness!
--"World's Finest"... yep, they said it!
--90s Flash!  Portents of a coming CRISIS!  Green Lantern easter egg!!!
--cliffhanger with EVIL SUPERMAN!!!! 

All this and so much more!   WOW!!!  This is just pure fanboy fun.  Total giddy entertainment.

One more part to go....
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiweqFqdK9Q[/video]
 

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I saw it more as, Batman being Batman, travels between worlds himself.
I watched both parts, and while I enjoyed them, they felt kinda not great, and Power Rangers-y. Clearly I don't watch The Flash enough to know what I'm getting myself into. Last night's episode was a bit better, though I need to get around to actually watching Arrow. 
Looking forward to tonight's episode. 
Eventually I want someone to edit these together and do whatever they can to improve them, but this is just a minor personal thing.
 

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SUPERGIRL "Elseworlds Part 3"

SUPER SPOILERS!

--replacing the Kara voice over origin with Deegan's!
--good twist, not Evil Superman, but Deegan as Superman!
--Trigger Twins... did they raid Fonzie's closet? lol
--they lied!  The Legends are in the crossover... GARY!!! :)
--these 3 episodes are the BEST written Supergirl character in a long time, hope it continues rest of the season
--loved the Kara and Alex scene
--Kara wonders why her pod never landed on Earth-1?
--the Fortress of Solitude has stair railings?
--no return of 90s Flash?
--"Bizzaro" ha ha!
--so the Book of Destiny only reveals information of the Earth/Universe you are in, not the whole multiverse?
--only the true Superman is strong enough to use the Book of Destiny
--man o man, the Monitor scenes are pitch perfect!
--Lois is preggos!  I guess that will resolve the continual fan question why Superman doesn't show up....
--Spinning the world backwards!
--lost opportunity!!!  Superman and Brainy in a scene together, and no mention of their Legion history?  Just a simple exchange like Superman looks over at Brainy, says "Hey Brainy, good to see you.  We should do coffee and catch up." would have been awesome.
--Ollie makes a deal to save Barry and Kara (they BOTH died in the Crisis comic), what was it?  A life for a life?  The Crisis is coming and as said before, Amell's contract expires next season... hhmmmmmm....
--And Psycho Pirate utters the infamous "Worlds will live, worlds will die..."

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Om3MuKAeC0[/video]

OVERALL IMPRESSIONS -- Not sure how I feel about Batwoman being on Earth-1, thus Batman?  On the one hand, it sort of feels disrespectful to Amell and the franchise he launched.  On the other hand, Arrow has incorporated Batman characters/concepts since the very beginning, so it does sort of work continuity wise.

These three nights were the most fun I have had with the Arrowverse since.... well, since last season's crossover!!!

More thoughts later, need to rewatch again. :D
 

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The CW has renewed the entire Arrowverse line up for next season, along with the Batwoman pilot, so next year's crossover CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS should be appropriately epic!


So far I have been enjoying all shows since their winter return.   The new Arrow status quoe is starting to feel more natural, and though the writers still seem to struggle with what to do with the overly large cast, at least they are giving the characters better bits to work with during their brief screen time.  I am loving the evolution of Wild Dog, never thought I would write that!  I am liking the new Green Arrow, as she is a nice counter reflection to Oliver, and shows how much he has changed in 7 seasons.   And the Suicide Squad is back.... sorta... DC must have relaxed a bit on their creative embargo with DCTV side of things, as Arrow can use the Suicide Squad but can not CALL THEM the Suicide Squad... it is now the Ghost Initivite or protocol or something silly....  regardless, glad to see it back as it was a good fit of the Arrow show. 

The Flash, as always, continues to be my favourite show... even a bad episode will make me smile.   The latest episode rejuvinated the villain storyline immensely imo.... I am beginning to suspect that Nora has come back in time to save her mom Iris from being murdered by Cicada?  This last episode has established there is over 200 known parallel (not 52) Earths, that the villian Red Death exists and the timeline has been altered further, with the establishment of Iris' newspaper in 2019 instead of 2021.   In many ways, this entire season feels like the back door set up for CRISIS.
 

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Arrow -- "Brothers and Sisters"

The big bad finally revealed!  ADRIAN PAUL!  The freaking Highlander!!!!
 

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http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm0BgVp-Y-0[/video]
:cry:

Amell's dedication to this franchise and it's fans for the past seven years has been absolutely amazing!!!
 

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Supergirl is a show that has really struggled since it's inception as to what kind of show it wants to be, often setting up strong concepts and arcs, but failing to stick to its landing.

But this season, particularly the last 3-4 episodes, and the introduction of The Elite, the show has shown tremendous improvement.

This coming week, Supergirl will be boldly introducing the most iconic villain of Superman mythos....

LEX LUTHOR!!!

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zk-PcRNhGE[/video]
 
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