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Solo - A Star Wars Story

I saw it tonight, and I didn't like it. It was more boring and uninteresting than bad, as well as a waste of talent. I'm glad this is failing at the box office, hopefully Disney will stop giving us terrible Star Wars movies every year.
 
wilhelm scream said:
hopefully Disney will stop giving us terrible Star Wars movies every year.
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TM2YC said:
wilhelm scream said:
hopefully Disney will stop giving us terrible Star Wars movies every year.
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Look, I know almost everybody site hates me because of my rebellious attitude and my hatred of Disney Star Wars, but nothing will convince me that it is good. I only ask people to respect my opinion, and leave me alone if it's not information about my fanedits. And no, I do not hate Disney Star Wars because I prefer Star Wars Legends, just in case anyone thinks of using that stupid argument against me.
 
wilhelm scream said:
Look, I know almost everybody site hates me because of my rebellious attitude and my hatred of Disney Star Wars, but nothing will convince me that it is good. I only ask people to respect my opinion, and leave me alone if it's not information about my fanedits. And no, I do not hate Disney Star Wars because I prefer Star Wars Legends, just in case anyone thinks of using that stupid argument against me.
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A) Nobody is ever going to convince anybody that something as subjective as film is good when they don't like it.
B) Personally, I do respect your opinions on the movies themselves but saying that Disney should stop putting them out as often because you don't like them is childish and an opinion I do not respect (nor should anybody). It's dumb. We all hate some types of movies. The adult thing to do is understand that other people do like them and you don't have to see them. It's not very difficult.
C) Don't post in the thread if you want people to leave you and your opinion alone. The point of the thread is to discuss the movie and by posting you are participating in the discussion. So it's stupid to say "leave me alone then" when you don't like the response.
D) If you don't like the movies, stop watching them. It's incredibly ironic that you insist that you will not be swayed to enjoy these movies but constantly try to convince others they are bad. If you don't like any of the films, cool. There are people who hate and love Marvel films, DC films, James Bond films, etc. If you hate a certain type of film, don't post in the thread unless you are trying to engage in an earnest discussion and understand why people do. I have never seen you engage in an earnest discussion trying to understand anybody else's point of view. So, fine, stop posting in the damn Disney Star Wars threads then. You can't play the victim when you do things like this.
E) Your opinion on the new Star Wars movies is shared by many, though probably not on a site dedicated to an art that was borne out of Star Wars. It's not rebellious. It's fine, to each their own. Some people love 'em, some people hate 'em, some people do both depending on the movie. People don't like you because of the way you express your opinion and react to other's opinions, not because of your view on the movies. I imagine it's much easier to think that people hate your opinion because then you don't have to examine the behaviors that are actually the problem.
 
I haven’t come away from a Disney Star Wars movie feeeling like “oh my god I loved it” yet. Probably the closest is Rogue One and I think Digmodification’s edit gets me to the “loved it” point. But, to me, none of them have been even close to as horrible as any of the prequels. So when I hear people say Disney ruined Star Wars, I’m going to dismiss your opinion out of hand. It just isn’t realistic. These movies are objectively better even if you subjectivity don’t like them as much. And it’s doesn’t help that common criticism is sexist. For this site, I think critiquing what’s could’ve been better is awesome. I’m all ears.
 
@"wilhelm scream" , I believe the backlash is probably due to a lack of tact on the delivery of opinions.
 
Yeah, nothing wrong in not liking the new movies. I mean even most people who like them, like me, have some problems with them.
What i'm gonna say is not towards anyone here, I'm talking in general:
The problem comes when little sentences like "Disney and Rian Johnson  ruined Star Wars" comes in the discussion over and over again. It's dumb on a "George Lucas raped my childhood with the prequels" level. Those can be funny catch phrases to say when you leave the theater disappointed, but months and months after? Tha's jus not healthy.
I also don't like when people are scapegoating Rian Jhonson ad Kathleen Kennedy (and now actors like Kelly Marie Tran) for months and months, calling them names or throw racist things at their face, etc...
Honestly, I'm not asking to the people who don't like the movie to say that they like it, not even to shut their mouth, but I'm asking them to really try to differentiate themselves to what is now known as the "toxic fans". Try to chose your words wisely until the "climate changes", lol, because any discussion can deviate to something ugly quite fast these days.
 
appreciate the adult perspective and the teaching moment, @"thecuddlyninja", regardless of whether they are comprehended and acted upon, which, if they were, would be to the vast betterment and growth of the addressee.
 
saw it today. moar best and funnest SW movie since the first order awakens. :D many elements (w/r/t character, subplot, music) made me smile or chuckle.

having low expectations helped. if i were to fanedit this (i won't), i'd excise only a few scenes, and it appears the excisions would work cleanly. i'd trim a few more.

without but especially with a fanedit, a worthy entry into the franchise.
 
The previous movie, a bad guy was cut it half, tongue hanging out, dead.

In this movie, a formerly cut in half bad guy returns...
 
Detective said:
The previous movie, a bad guy was cut it half, tongue hanging out, dead.

In this movie, a formerly cut in half bad guy returns...
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Basically, Snoke's cut would be where the stomach, pancreas, and kidneys would be in a human's body, as the lightsaber was at his arm height. Also, he was old, weak, fragile.
 
The Empire's Film Podcast's Solo "Spoiler Special" podcast with Ron Howard. (Featuring spoilers, obviously.)

https://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine%2Fsolo-spoiler-special-ft-ron-howard

I haven't listened to it yet, but here's a list of highlights that I found on Reddit.

There are no concrete plans for a Solo sequel

A Lando centric film could be on the table

While Disney would like as many films as possible Lucasfilm is trying to be methodical in what films they choose produce, but also trying to be courageous in those choices

There was a list of options for the "boss" at the end and Howard lobbied for Maul

Jabba was on the boss list

Boba Fett was never slated for inclusion

Lucasfilm is actively listening to the fans

Jon Kasdan was in constant contact/communication with Pablo, Jon was Ron’s conduit to Pablo and canon details

Pablo helps encourage creative choices

Ron hints that a war amongst the five crime syndicates could have potential in a film

Ron talks about real world crime syndicates controlling ports or trade routes and the government turning an eye. Then at a certain point the government comes in and takes over again, resulting in a battle. Sounds to me like this is the pitch for a sequel.

They’re looking to develop a television version of Willow with Warwick Davis

L3 isn’t 100% absolute certainly part of the Falcon permanently. He opens up the possibility of Lando rebuilding L3 while the Falcon keeps part of her as well.

Ron dispels the rumor that the Kasdans didn’t approve of Chris and Phil encouraging improvisation. He says both Phoebe and Donald improvised a lot.

The scene between Qi’ra and L3 was a late addition. Kathleen, Jon and Ron conceived it as they wanted them to have some connection before Kessel, Jon wrote it overnight and they shot it the next day.

Ron wanted as much Chewbacca as possible

The monster and the Coaxium trick were not in the Kessel Run plan when Ron came onboard

Tom Hanks requested to cameo as a Stormtrooper but they couldn’t align schedules
 
Cool story.

But really, would that just mean they don't make them any more?  If you want these movies to fail because you think it will force them to make different kinds of SW movies, ok, but some of us really like these movies.  Wanting them to just stop being made is selfish.  You can just ignore them.

EDIT: Lol I missed an entire page.  This was in response to Wilhelm.
 
I really didn't like this movie, which is the first time I can say that since Disney took the reigns.

Solo was an ugly looking, unnecessary movie. Most of the problem lies in that there is no risk involved with prequel stories. We know Han survives, so a train heist switcheroo movie is no real threat.

Am I going to raise a stink? Nah, I just don't need to add this to my Star Wars canon.

I am looking forward to Episode 9 though :)
 
ThrowgnCpr said:
Solo was an ugly looking, unnecessary movie. Most of the problem lies in that there is no risk involved with prequel stories. We know Han survives, so a train heist switcheroo movie is no real threat.
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I don't think it was ugly looking but several people noticed after a second viewing that the contrast and the darkness of the picture varied from screening to screening... and sometimes it was very dark to the point you could not see shit. so there's that. (my screening had a good picture. I did not see it in 3D though)

About the "prequel problem" of knowing that our main characters would not die: I don't think that's a problem if you can enjoy the movie as a whole. I mean, I knew that James Bond would not die in Casino Royal and I still liked the movie. You can still have suspens and thrills about everything else other than the few things you already know from other movies. I was not worried about Han's life being in danger during the train sequence, of course, but I enjoyed it, it had a few surprises of having half the crew dying and I was interested to see where that would lead the story.
If you didn't like the new things, then it's another discussion, sure.
 
TMBTM said:
If you didn't like the new things, then it's another discussion, sure.
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I didn't really like anything from it (except for LOLing at the Clint Howard cameo). Was it the "worst movie ever?" Nah, but it detracted from, rather than added to, my enjoyment of the Han Solo character and Star Wars universe.

I think it's a better movie than the any of Episodes I - III, but where those stories are kinda/sorta important to the Star Wars universe, I can definitely live without seeing Solo ever again.
 
Though I enjoyed Solo, I'd still only call it merely kinda good. It had better developed characters than Rogue One, which is why I think I consider it the better film (and thus the best Wars since Return of the Jedi), but Rogue One certainly felt fresher in many ways. Also, this thoughtful discussion between two AV Club critics points out how the movie unnecessarily compresses many important aspects of Han's character into a ~one-week period:


I think the core problem is perhaps one of format: the origins of Han Solo the smuggler should ideally have been a Netflix miniseries of, say, 8-10 episodes, showing him doing various low-key jobs, meeting Lando, doing the Kessel Run, along with other stuff - not too many episodes that the character were to gain unnecessary complexity or wears out his welcome, but enough random hijinks that there's no need to compress Chewie, the Falcon, Lando, and the Kessel Run all into just a few days' time. Also, a whole episode of Han in the Imperial Navy could have been a valuable look at just what the Empire and its rule felt like for your average commoner, as it's a shame the movie skipped right over that. For this reason, I'd welcome a sequel, ideally without Maul, in order to use Han as a way of exploring more of the universe (and he still hasn't collected his vest or pants!), but, even if we do get more standalones, that seems pretty unlikely.

Still, I did enjoy the flick; unlike TFA and TLJ, I wasn't bored, and found the characters credible and coherent.
 
TM2YC said:
I was already wondering why they used "Crimson Dawn" instead of "Black Sun" and yes I would have been all aboard for that cameo.
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Huh, I only just learned that, thanks to the Clone Wars series, both Black Sun and Xixor's species the Falleen are canon, though not Xixor himself - yet, at any rate. Seems there's still plenty of room to slot him in.

Anyhow, this video makes me think Lucasfilm should make a Lando movie, with Han appearing in a supporting role...

 
That's fantastic.

This is not as good, but still good.

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