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X-Men: Dark Phoenix
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Film is due out November 2nd next year

https://twitter.com/BoxOffice/status/855811365470121984

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men/thr...es-a150545

Pray for S'hiar and Starjammer inclusion
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Zarius Wrote:Pray for S'hiar and Starjammer inclusion
Angel

Starjammers could be Fox's answer to the Galaxy Guardians.
though if they handle that story anything like they did AoA . . . it will be a whole lot of nothing happening.
Firstling attempt coming soon. i hope.
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(04-22-2017, 11:07 PM)baileym43 Wrote:
Zarius Wrote:Pray for S'hiar and Starjammer inclusion
Angel

Starjammers could be Fox's answer to the Galaxy Guardians.
though if they handle that story anything like they did AoA . . . it will be a whole lot of nothing happening.

AoA? 

I think doing another Phoenix movie is a bad idea. But we'll see.
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^ Age of Adaline. Wink

I think Apocalypse's biggest problem was... well, actually, throwing the X-Men's greatest enemy at the group when there wasn't even an established team, let alone an experienced team, to confront him. But the second-biggest problem was it was split between being a First Class movie, a Second Class movie, and an Apocalypse movie. I'm still totally up for a Second Class movie, and so long as the Phoenix doesn't play second fiddle to another villain, even Magneto, I'm not too concerned about reliving the terrors of The Last Stand. And I assume this means we'll be getting two McAvoy Professor X appearances next year, and that's gotta count for something, right?!
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I like your positivity, Gaith!
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I hope Dark Pheonix is better than Apocalypse. Apocalypse was dissapointing.
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I liked Apocalypse. It was flawed, but it was still good. It had good characters, a classic (maybe a bit cliché) good vs. evil story, an intimidating villain... Yeah maybe it got repetitive in certain ways (considering past X-Men films) but it succeeded in what it was trying to do.

Hmm... No Bryan Singer... Simon Kinberg wrote the screenplay... Dark Phoenix... This all sounds so familiar somehow...


All jokes aside, it really comes down to who's directing it. Since Bryan Singer won't be directing this, a good director with a good vision has to be brought in. I really don't think Simon Kinberg should direct this, since this would be his debut film, and I think it would be too risky for a huge film like this. I vote for Matthew Vaughn to return to the X-Men franchise, who is arguably a better director than Simon Kinberg, Brett Ratner and probably even Bryan Singer.

#VaughnForDarkPhoenix?
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(04-23-2017, 10:58 AM)Masirimso17 Wrote: All jokes aside, it really comes down to who's directing it. Since Bryan Singer won't be directing this, a good director with a good vision has to be brought in.

Eh, I think in most cases, the screenwriter is more important than the director. If you gave Aaron Sorkin's Social Network script to a competent shooter like Brett Ratner, he probably would've made a good movie, albeit not as good as the one we got. (I think Ratner's Red Dragon is pretty darn good, and it's almost certainly the best script he's directed.) But if David Fincher had been forced to make the Last Stand shooting script, it would almost certainly still have been a bad movie. Of course, depending on when a director comes on, the structure and shape of the screenplay can be due in large part to their control, so it's not black-and-white, but I think the cinematic cult of the director is in many (though not all) cases overblown.

It's easy to blame Kinberg for The Last Stand, and say that he should have dropped the Phoenix storyline when Fox demanded the "Gifted" story feature also, and maybe he should have. But maybe he honestly tried and couldn't find a way to make the Gifted story be sufficiently compelling on its own. (After Xavier almost killed all humanity in X2, after all, it's hard to argue that humans shouldn't have some protection from mutantkind.) And maybe he is a straight-up bad writer; I don't know. But I do know The Last Stand was 11 years ago, and that he's worked a lot since then, so maybe he's improved...
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Gaith Wrote:^ Age of Adaline. Wink

I think Apocalypse's biggest problem was... well, actually, throwing the X-Men's greatest enemy at the group when there wasn't even an established team, let alone an experienced team, to confront him.

or as RedLetterMedia put it, Week of Apocalypse.
the biggest problem was it not being a trilogy, or at least a two-parter.
this shows that the writers and suits don't pay attention to the source material.

part 1 would include a nice origin fly-through of Apoco, kinda like what we got, that was pretty good.  then spend the movie with him putting together his horsemen, some low-level mutants he uses.  the fledgling x-men confront them and succeed, but wait, oh no! he had a second more powerful Four Horsemen the whole time, which included the characters we saw in the movie.  so Apoco wins.

part 2 the team regroups but now they're struggling with confidence issues, Jean especially.  Xavier reaches out to a certain group he knows about in Canada for help (a nice insert for Alpha Flight, whom may or may not, depending on Hugh Jackman's willingness, have found a wildman in the Canadian wilderness).  they find out Apoco is destroying Egypt and northern Africa (because if you want collateral damage, go to Africa), they go and Avengers style save whatever city is being destroyed.  this helps Jean unleash the Pheonix force and defeats Apoco much like we got in X2 but Apoco delivers a warning that they unleashed a far greater power than him.  or instead of Apoco saying this, Llandra beams to Earth and chews them out for releasing the Pheonix Force . . . enter the Shi'ar Empire.

part 3 the team now has to deal with intergalactic matters, which puts their small earth problems into perspective for them.  along the way they meet a rag-tag group of mercs called the Starjammers (the Fox answer to the GotG headed by a human man with a strange connection to Scott, whom is proving to be a talanted leader*).  they deal with the Shi'ar empire wanting to kill Jean to destroy the Pheonix force, while the team doesn't want that to happen, yadda yadda, the rest writes itself.

i think the real problem though is Deadpool.  as that caused EVERYONE to go back to the drawing board.





*he's scott's father, for those unfamiliar with the comics.
Firstling attempt coming soon. i hope.
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#10
So you're talking about X-Men: Apocalypse. That could have been made less confusing, since AoA is not part of the film's name.
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