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Working with H265 @ 4K and 8K

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Does ay one know of an NLE that can decode and encode H265 at 4K and 8K resolutions, hopefully something that does not cost zillions
Any help appreciated
 

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It's bee a week since I posted the question;
I am bumping the thread on the hope that someone would give me some kind of answer
 

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't get why there would be a reasonably priced NLE that can handle a format that isn't available yet.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe h.265 is available, it's just no one is really supporting it. Most people who deal with 4k & 8K use VP9.
 

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Who is dealing with 4k and 8k, other than professionals? Where would you get the source material to work with?
 

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TV's Frink said:
Who is dealing with 4k and 8k, other than professionals? Where would you get the source material to work with?

That's an excellent point.
 

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Sounds like the answer is no. Maybe try to contact someone who put together a 4k or 8k video on youtube, like the Spider Man Parkour guy. Good luck?
 

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Unless someone has better info, I will lock this thread. This feels like a piracy discussion waiting to happen.
 

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TV's Frink said:
Unless someone has better info, I will lock this thread. This feels like a piracy discussion waiting to happen.

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Thread reopened. Any discussion of sources shall be limited to non-commercial sources such as 4k camcorder footage. The staff will be watching this thread closely; any discussion that hints at piracy will quickly be shut down, and infractions will be given. We can't be too careful when it comes to potential piracy.
 

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For others like me, behind the curve, CNet published an article on h265 earlier.

What is HEVC?
High Efficiency Video Coding, H.265, and 4K compression explained


High Efficiency Video Coding (HEVC), also known as H.265, promises twice the compression possible with Blu-ray’s best video compression methods. But how does it work, and is it enough to get us better-looking 4K content? . . .

http://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-he...eo-coding-h-265-and-4k-compression-explained/
 

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Great find [MENTION=17386]Vultural[/MENTION] :)
 

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Resolutions like this quite honestly blow my frekin mind...


I've... for the longest... wanted a professional 1080p camera.... with some stray hopes of getting a consumer 4k camera that Sony makes.

I'm just stunned in amazement that stuff like 8k exists...



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That's a cool graphic. I'd never even heard of fulldome before.

I can't imagine how much computer power would be needed, though.
 

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wayne.workman2012 said:
I'm just stunned in amazement that stuff like 8k exists...

It's been around for about 100 years... it's called film :p
 

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I think the poster was saying how amazing it it that digital has finally caught up with film, which it is!
 

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TV's Frink said:
I can't imagine how much computer power would be needed, though.

To encode H264 @ 4K you will need a modern dual core processor with 8GB fast DDR3 ram
It is going to take a long time but can be done
To encode H265 @ 4K minimum hard hardware required is a new fast Quad Core (six core preferred) CPU and 32 GB fast ram and a fast HDD
 

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The simplest way to do this is to use avid media composer, and ama link it. Your computer will have to be a beast though especially if its a complex edit.
 

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Thanks [MENTION=32402]Rembo92[/MENTION]
I had a look at Avid, you are right. it needs a beast of a machine, also the price is a bit steep for a casual editor like me:lol:
I am currently exploring Cinelerra HV, the hardware requirements are less. They also have what they call "render farm" this is a quote from the website "Cinelerra render farm software distributes Linux renders via the interface below (and any other command line interface renderer to an unlimited number of machines. Control your own render farm remotely via http -- ftp source files up, download your finished renders!."
I haven't tried this yet, but I have 3 mid range Linux boxes on a local area network, so in theory, it should work;-)
I am doing this project as an experiment and I work on it on and off, (More off than on). I'll try to keep the thread updated with the results as they become available
Thanks again
 
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