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(04-14-2020, 05:19 PM)TM2YC Wrote: Kiki's Delivery Service (1989)

If you haven't heard of it, former Ghibli staff now have a new studio and produced an animated film that can be found on Netflix called Mary and the Witch's Flower, and my headcanon is that it's a stealth sequel to Kiki.

I'm not an anime fan in general but I love some Ghibli movies. This one's Ghibli by association. Smile
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(04-15-2020, 08:13 PM)mnkykungfu Wrote: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)

Everyone's seen a trailer already, so there's a good spoiler-filled video instead... it actually just begins to cover the "sins" of what I thought was a massively over-rated film.  There are several big plot problems with that film, but much like Thor: Ragnarok, people who like comedy and pretty visuals don't care.  I'm a story guy however, so.... full review: https://letterboxd.com/nottheacademy/fil...der-verse/
I stopped watching after two minutes because the "sins" weren't things that were wrong with the movie, they were just stylistic things the reviewer didn't like (like the comic-book style of animation which I admit also bugged me), or non-issues like telling the viewer that Aaron's advise to put your hand on a girl's shoulder and go "Hey." is bad advice.
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(04-15-2020, 11:16 PM)addiesin Wrote:
(04-14-2020, 05:19 PM)TM2YC Wrote: Kiki's Delivery Service (1989)

If you haven't heard of it, former Ghibli staff now have a new studio and produced an animated film that can be found on Netflix called Mary and the Witch's Flower, and my headcanon is that it's a stealth sequel to Kiki.

I'm not an anime fan in general but I love some Ghibli movies. This one's Ghibli by association. Smile

Netflix's algorithm has been recommending that one pretty heavily because I've got all the Ghibli stuff on my watchlist. Speaking of Ghibli...

Princess Mononoke (1997)
After seeing several other Hayao Miyazaki animations in the past I was not expecting this to be so violent and adult oriented. There are more beheadings and maimings than in The Hobbit trilogy Big Grin . It starts off as a fairly standard sword & sorcery adventure set in 16th Century Japan, following Prince Ashitaka (and his trusty elk steed Yakul) on a journey to a far away land to discover the source of an evil curse. It gets much weirder as it goes along with tentacles everywhere, forest spirits, nightmare demons, boar god armies and giant talking wolves. The source of the evil is a conflict between animals and the ancient spirits of the forest and the humans of the industrial 'Iron Town'. The forest is represented by San (the titular "Spirit-Monster Princess"), a human raised by the wolf gods and the humans are lead by the authoritative Lady Eboshi, a friend to lepers and prostitutes. Miyazaki is careful not to make either side out to be completely villainous, it's more concerned with ecological themes, the balance with nature and our failure to empathise with others. The animation and design is a riot of imagination and the handling of light is stunning as characters move beneath foliage, dappled in sunlight.



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(04-16-2020, 12:59 PM)asterixsmeagol Wrote: I stopped watching after two minutes because the "sins" weren't things that were wrong with the movie, they were just stylistic things the reviewer didn't like (like the comic-book style of animation which I admit also bugged me), or non-issues like telling the viewer that Aaron's advise to put your hand on a girl's shoulder and go "Hey." is bad advice.
Yeah, I find that when I really like a movie, I get annoyed with CinemaSins because its #1 priority is comedy, not "sins".  That said, pretty sure they bring up the first two major plot holes of the movie in the first 2 minutes, which is Gwen coming to Miles' school which
A. is an exclusive private school that you have to win a lottery to enter, and
B. is before he has been (for some reason?) bitten by an unexplained spider

So, in this case, I can forgive them poking fun at things that aren't really "sins".
 
(04-16-2020, 01:28 PM)TM2YC Wrote: Princess Mononoke (1997)
After seeing several other Hayao Miyazaki animations in the past I was not expecting this to be so violent and adult oriented. 

I do love the all-ages Ghibli films, and I wouldn't really call any of them "adult", though you would need to be a teen and/or Japanese to really appreciate some of them, like this one.  Mononoke-hime is hands-down Ghibli's crowning achievement for me, and one of my top animated films ever.  Crap, I immediately remembered Grave of the Fireflies and have to retract that.  Ok, Mononoke is #2 though!
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(04-16-2020, 09:29 PM)mnkykungfu Wrote:
(04-16-2020, 12:59 PM)asterixsmeagol Wrote: I stopped watching after two minutes because the "sins" weren't things that were wrong with the movie, they were just stylistic things the reviewer didn't like (like the comic-book style of animation which I admit also bugged me), or non-issues like telling the viewer that Aaron's advise to put your hand on a girl's shoulder and go "Hey." is bad advice.
Yeah, I find that when I really like a movie, I get annoyed with CinemaSins because its #1 priority is comedy, not "sins".  That said, pretty sure they bring up the first two major plot holes of the movie in the first 2 minutes, which is Gwen coming to Miles' school which
A. is an exclusive private school that you have to win a lottery to enter, and
B. is before he has been (for some reason?) bitten by an unexplained spider

Yeah, that doesn't really make any sense. I think that the video would have been more effective if it just did what the title says instead of doing what the title says and criticizing creative decisions and naming them as errors along with actual errors.
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(04-16-2020, 09:29 PM)mnkykungfu Wrote: That said, pretty sure they bring up the first two major plot holes of the movie in the first 2 minutes, which is Gwen coming to Miles' school which
A. is an exclusive private school that you have to win a lottery to enter, and
B. is before he has been (for some reason?) bitten by an unexplained spider

A. Maybe her universe also had the school so she had the credentials to get in? Maybe the teachers are mostly not observant? I mean I don't doubt she's not enrolled but it's the beginning of the school year so she wouldn't stick out to most just being new. A better question is why would she want/choose to go there, but even then she's not in her universe and has no home to go to, maybe she wants somewhere to blend in until she figures out what to do. I don't find this to be much of a stretch.

B. The collider that caused her to arrive went off after he was bitten, but Gwen said she was "thrown into last week". The spider's origin not being explained was for a (imo pretty good) visual gag, but if you want an explanation, since it was underground and very near the collider, I'd say Fisk's science people working on the collider were likely also the origin of the spider. Fisk had a history with Spiderman in this universe so again, not much of a stretch.

I don't think these count as plot holes, maybe leaps in logic or details left to the imagination. They don't make the movie's story hard to understand, the audience is always able to follow the plot. I think the story is pretty tight, and I'm glad they didn't get too nitty gritty into the characters' origin stories, they know we know the gist already.

Btw, I didn't intend this as an attack on you, just a response to the two nitpicks.
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(04-16-2020, 10:59 PM)addiesin Wrote:  

Well, hey, if it didn't bother you, it didn't bother you.  As someone who's taught big classes before, it's incomprehensible to me that you're passing out photocopies to your students and oblivious that there's an extra student who's not on your roll.  It also just seems like super lazy/convenient writing to have the only instance of time travel indicated in the film be used to explain Gwen's presence.  Time travel explanations are the crutch of desperate writers (unless your movie is all about Time.)  (Also, ALSO Gwen explains her presence at the school by saying she felt "called" there by her Spider-Sense [because now that's how Spider-Sense works??] except that why would she be called there before Miles was ever bitten?!  Her Spider-Sense no longer senses danger but is now some kind of divination device?!)

Then we have Kingpin, a Prohibition-era mobster caricature.  Doc Ock wants to work on a particle collider, fine, but in this universe Kingpin also thinks warping dimensions will allow him to rewrite his past and will work on a billion dollar experiment for that?  Okay, fine, so it's a very different Kingpin than we've ever seen before, but I'll try to run with that.  So we're meant to believe he's simultaneously bankrolling experiments on spiders that would replicate Spider-Man's powers?  Why?  It's not tied to his motivation.  We don't see anything about these experiments.  He doesn't know what gave Spider-Man his powers.  Nobody we see in the movie is a genius bio-chemist.  And it would be super-weird to run these experiments in the hidden sewer next to a particle collider that distorts reality!  They'd be totally separate from each other, assuming you believe they co-exist.  It's just a deus ex machina thrown in and then hoping the audience will buy the explanation "Uhhh...Because Science!" just because they don't want to see yet more exposition and yet another Spider-Man origin (even though the film shows 6 Spider-Man origins...)  Sorry, not on board.  It's just lazy.

I'm fine if people like things more/less than I do, it's cool.  What I do wish, though, is that people would be more open to admitting the faults in what they like.  Like, I've historically been a huge Star Wars fan, but I'll admit those are not perfect films.  It seems like often these days, especially on the internet, no one can admit there are flaws in the things they like.  Like that would somehow lessen their like for the thing?  (Not directed at anyone in particular, I just often find myself in the position of criticising a critical darling and being met with a wall of opposition.)
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(04-17-2020, 01:34 PM)mnkykungfu Wrote: I just often find myself in the position of criticising a critical darling and being met with a wall of opposition.

Well, when you’re opposing someone else’s opinion—especially when it’s one that is shared by a great many critics—you have to accept that it may be you in the minority; that the faults you see aren’t seen as faults by most. I’ve got my fair share of differences in opinion with many movies. For example, I think almost all Christopher Nolan movies are well made but ultimately shallow and cheap narratively. But many find him among the most brilliant filmmakers ever, and certainly currently making movies. Stand by your convictions but don’t assume you’re right and they’re wrong. You’re right for you, and they’re right for them. That’s the beauty of art.
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(04-17-2020, 01:51 PM)Moe_Syzlak Wrote:
(04-17-2020, 01:34 PM)mnkykungfu Wrote: I just often find myself in the position of criticising a critical darling and being met with a wall of opposition.

Well, when you’re opposing someone else’s opinion—especially when it’s one that is shared by a great many critics—you have to accept that it may be you in the minority; that the faults you see aren’t seen as faults by most. I’ve got my fair share of differences in opinion with many movies. For example, I think almost all Christopher Nolan movies are well made but ultimately shallow and cheap narratively. But many find him among the most brilliant filmmakers ever, and certainly currently making movies. Stand by your convictions but don’t assume you’re right and they’re wrong. You’re right for you, and they’re right for them. That’s the beauty of art.

I'm good with that.  I do expect opposition, and don't get me wrong, I like debate over the relative success of how well filmmakers achieved their vision.  It's often hard to get across online what you'd see in person, which is a real enthusiasm and engagement when discussing films.  What I was getting at is that I try to focus on criticism that isn't a matter of personal taste (unlike for example, "I don't like that animation style" as astrerixsmeagol pointed out) and is more about continuity, logic gaps, tonal/character inconsistencies... things that are not a matter of preference but can be discussed more objectively. 

Your criticism of Nolan is a good example.  We could really debate if the deeper meaning and themes present in films like Inception or The Dark Knight are intended by the filmmakers or are being read into and imposed by the audience.  That's a healthy debate.  And as a Nolan fan, I'm open to admitting he has not always flawlessly executed his films.  I love when others can engage on that same level, like "I liked the acting so much in The Prestige that I overlooked some of the logic errors." It's okay to acknowledge something is not perfect and you like it anyway.  I kind of view that as a major focus of this site: the idea that as good as a movie was, it could be made even better with a little tweaking.
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(04-17-2020, 01:51 PM)Moe_Syzlak Wrote: I think almost all Christopher Nolan movies are well made but ultimately shallow and cheap narratively.

I'm in the minority here along with you.
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